[Solved] Scott Schedule

I feel very sad for you... I sympathise with your position, I understand you’ve had enough, but I fear the path you have chosen is taking you further away from the relationship with your children, that you crave so much.

All the best mate.

I feel for my girls, being dragged up in south London with that thing they call mum and some random stranger they most likely call dad, on top of that they have to suffer their grandparents who abused their mother, it will be a continued circle because of the system.

I would love to win this case and with my evidence I should have won this case hands down but the system is not on ours or our children's side otherwise who would be putting in to the corrupt family court system to keep these abusers (judges) in work?

My girls will never know me and I am beginning to accept this, I don't feel I could handle a knock at my door 16 years from now, but if they did try then I have the evidence for them to take to show the abuser that they have finally seen the truth and question her as to why they never got to meet me or their Nan, and other family members.

Thank you for your responses, I will keep you informed of how it goes but I could have told you that after the first court hearing.

I would take new evidence back to the social worker but what good would that be? just more malicious allegations from Father against poor little victim mother, who cares if she beats her kids up? it keeps them in their jobs!

Maybe I should post my evidence on here to show how corrupt the system is against men!

It’s not advisable to post anything about your case, it would be considered as contempt and you could find yourself in hot water... this is an open forum and we have had incidences of members having posted details of their case and been identified by an ex, social worker or ex’s solicitor by their posts here and pulled up over it.

It's not advisable to tell the truth on anything about the case either right? contempt of court would also include lying to a judge but not in family court right?I am going to revoke the court application so my girls can be further abused and the paedophile system to continue so my slag of an ex can drag them up!

It’s an area that needs vast improvement... in my humble opinion, if the existing contempt laws were used consistently against litigants found to be lying/making false allegations, family court would be a better place.

The same with enforcement... the number of successful enforcement applications is minuscule, they usually morph into a variation of the existing order and again, the breaches go unpunished.

It’s a catch 22 situation, courts feel that they can’t punish the resident parent, because there would be consequences for the children, but not acting on continued breaches is damaging children.

I’m here to give advice, I’m not legally trained, I just want to help people navigate the system as best they can... were successful much more often than not, but we have Dads that have been failed monumentally .... no more than a handful, but that’s too many.

I thought I would update on here as I feel people need to know the real situation with CAFCASS, I had my meeting for section 7 report which was pretty much already written as she had spoken to my ex first even though it was me that made the application.
Anything my ex had told her, the CAFCASS officer, had already put down and held has truth. I was speaking to a previous CAFCASS officer which had actually attended a hearing and she had told me that she could tell my ex was pulling the wool over their eyes and was not scared of me as she claimed, she wanted to take my case on and I was happy for her to do so, so they removed her, I was happy with the first judge making decisions so it wasn't about me or the ex just the kids, this was removed by the second judge but was made to be all about me.

I was told by CAFCASS that I was fixated on my past history with my ex, I was still talking about incidents which were proved malicious and false by myself? No they weren't, in fact I asked her if she had read the Scott Schedule in which my ex back tracked and admitted in a watered down way that she did cause some harm to the babies, she said she hadn't read it, yet this has been ignored by all. When I have told her that all systems in place are corrupt and biased she told me I have issues with authority, No, I have issues with corrupt authority that only want to hear one side of the story which is the fairy tale which will never end happily ever after for our kids, and never the truth!
I asked why my Mum couldn't see the kids, I told her she was in hospital and it was serious, she told me that my kids who haven't seen her in over 3 years would feel scared and upset by seeing a sick woman, not mentioning how they will feel in later life knowing they were prevented from knowing my Mum. Scandalous scumbags!
In reality, I am not allowed to request my evidence to be brought into court, yet I have to sit there and listen to the Judge, her solicitor, CAFCASS and whoever else bang on about my past which I have paid for my crimes which were never involving the kids, but I am fixated on what she had done which she hasn't paid for but can walk free as she is a woman, like CAFCASS told me, if a woman punches a man in the face, he should just walk away, but never should a man hit a woman, you couldn't make this [censored] up if you tried.

I am requested to go on the SPIP course by this Saturday coming, do an hair sample, and jump through all other hoops they place in front of me, although I have already been told I will not be getting my kids, and it is unlikely I will be seeing them anytime soon, why am I wasting my time with these idiots, there was nothing stopping me by law seeing my kids, just my ex, now CAFCASS are involved I can't see my kids. She told me my ex was happy for me to see them, CAFCASS warned her that if she allowed me to see them then she would place a child protection order on her and have the kids taken from her care? If a woman has admitted to abusing kids, no child protection order, letting them see their Father causes CAFCASS concerns? really? She was gloating when she told me all of this, but then had tears in her eyes on at least 3 occasions when I told her I won't be attended any courses and never going back to court, maybe she realised she would be responsible for my ex's actions if she harms the kids again, I asked her will she, the police, social workers and judges all be responsible if anything did happen to them, she refused to answer me as expected, just wanted to put it out there what to expect from these idiots claiming to be putting children's needs first, it is all rubbish as it is only the Mother they care about as they control them so they keep their jobs.

I wasn't in court when they spoke about the SPIP course, I had walked out by that time so I never agreed to anything so they can say and do as they please but I won't be going, I was thinking of sending the court an email with all of my evidence telling them I will not be attending any further attacks from the abusers and to remove my application, I was told even if I were to do this the courts could refuse my request (how convenient) just so they can abuse me and my kids further.

I have been looking into Legal Aid, I was violently abused by my ex several times with evidence, but she gets legal aid, is this worth looking into? as it is the only way I will be continuing this case, if not I am gone for good!

Thanks in advance.

such grim reading.they way they probably see things, if you storm out of court and refuse to go on courses, then your not interested in seeing your kids. just have to jump through all those annoying hoops.

Not interested in seeing my kids? are you for real? It is the ex that has made it obviously clear that she doesn't, and has never had any intention of allowing me to see the kids, and has the support of the system which encourages it to go on, they assist in child abuse and protect a grown woman from a man but allow her to beat her 3 week old babies? Jump through their hoops, if this is what you are all doing? no wonder the abuse on kids and fathers continues, they need to know we won't stand there and take their [censored] no longer, I won't be seeing my kids again anyway so why give them pleasure twice?

I don't even know where to start on this one.

You seem to believe everyone is against you. The judge is corrupt, carcass is against you, the ex is the devil, etc etc. Are you Mr Perfect who has never done anything wrong ?

Yes there is some truth to what you say, men generally get a harder time in family court, that's a reality, accept it and turn it to your advantage. deal with it.

The point of family court is not to win the case by proving the ex has done you or the kids wrong. You win by demonstrating that the children will be better off the more time they spend with you. You don't defeat the ex. You win it for the kids.

As a man, you don't start by applying for full residence, because in 2019, British society is not ready for that and you will be shot down straight away. Is it unfair ? Yes it is. Accept that and move on.

You want to be treated with the same respect a mother would. You won't. And who cares ? You are defined not by what they say or think, you are defined by your words, actions and self belief.

At some point after being at the receiving end of the 6th criminal allegation by the ex and having been interviewed in a police cell with a camera on my face, I contemplated giving up on court and just accepting whatever the ex wanted. Someone told me that was a question only I knew the answer to, but before I decided, I should think about, what would happen to my son if I did give up ?

You're doing everything wrong mate. If you keep doing what you are doing, you won't see the girls. If you give up, you won't see the girls.

What will happen to them ? And when they grow up and become women and realise what a [censored] mother they have, what will they say about the father who didn't protect them ?

Your only chance to rescue them is for you to change. Start with a cold shower and a deep breath.

What you are going through is incredibly difficult and yes, unfair. With adversity comes growth, healing and opportunity. Embrace it and do it for your girls.

Wise words, Thank you.

I have never claimed to be Mr Perfect and have admitted to my wrong doings.
I just want her to stop dragging my past up to use it against me as the first judge said it was pointless in going over old ground, and it was about the future of the girls with which I agreed.
It has only been since her solicitor, CAFCASS and the second judge all grouped together to decide what will be included and excluded which gets my back up as she gets everything she asked for and I get nothing, as will the girls as I feel like having a long holiday rather than battling in family (mothers) court.

I feel there is no light at the end of the tunnel as I haven't seen them since they were 1 month old and have no fight left as they are complete strangers to me now, as I am to them, most fathers have been in their kids lives for much longer so know exactly what they are fighting for if that makes sense?

I have never had any criminal convictions other than when with her and since breaking up, she has destroyed my life and being allowed to destroy my girls too, she will always be able to destroy our lives unless I walk away but then she will destroy the girls lives so it is like she has permission to control me, and destroy lives at our expense and nothing we can do about it, even with a court order she would refuse me access, as this is what she was told to do by the social worker in the first place. Social worker told me "if you want to see your kids again, then stop making false allegations" stop telling the truth she really meant.

Yes, I can only prevent this by being in their lives but this was already decided before the first hearing anyway, the system has made it's mind up to prevent me from protecting them as they feel it is their duty not mine, but they won't take responsibility if the ex really does harm the girls as we all know what happens in those cases! This was proven when police were ready to arrest both parents after social worker closed the S47 report in which Dr's reopened it saying they needed to do further checks, no smoke without fire. I was never told of this until recently.
She kept me out of their lives deliberately just so when it finally went to court I had no real grounds for full custody, but after 3 and a half years I think it is about time that things changed as she is doing the same thing and then expecting different results which doesn't help the girls, which is why I put in for full custody, I knew I wouldn't win, but it shook her up a little into admitting what she had previously denied point blank, so it partly worked in my favour, if I get what I have now applied for then things will look a lot better but that will be in time, fingers crossed.

I just want a fair treatment as we would, or should be getting in any court in the UK in 2019, and for my girls rights to have both parents in their lives which is their human rights.

I was a Father to my girls for 26 days before I was denied this role, I am losing faith I will ever be their Father, it has got me down as I have so much more going on, this is how the system want it to be so we end up with nothing.

You've had some very good advice here. I can only reiterate. Jump through the hoops, don't go flying off the handle in hearings and just focus on moving forward. It sounds like you have shot yourself in the foot on more than one occasion with the court and Cafcass and it really will not do you any favours. The courts generally don't want to look back and make a judgement on who has done / said what - they want to move things forward for children and ensure their right to a relationship with both parents where it is safe to do so.

The best I can add is wind your neck in and try to focus on moving forward no matter what they tell you to do.

If you're really struggling with self repping, try to get some help.