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No not necessarily, but it’s good to be proactive and if a parenting course is ordered, you’d be ahead of the game by starting it earlier. It won’t do any harm and it shows you’re being thoughtful to the mothers concerns.
Try not to overthink everything, you’re just giving yourself more stress! 🙂
Ji mojo,
Thank you for your replay. Can I ask you Is it common not to get any interim contact before the section 7? Or in my case do you think becaise cafcass was not present in FHDRA work against me? As I have looking at other people situation almost everyone gets atleast supervise contact whhile cafcass is preparing section 7?
Plus are you referring to a SPIP course in your last post?
Kind Regards
Arman it depends on each case and what the situation is. in my case i was seeing my 2 kids every saturday for most of the day, for a couple of months even before i took the legal route. so they took that into account. so at FHDRA, for interim order they gave me same thing, except some extra contact with baby daughter. and it stayed like that till section 7 report was done and i went to DRA. then at DRA no agreement reached. another interim order written up. this time allowing me overnight contact with 2 older kids for 1 night, every other weekend, and increased time with baby child. now im going for final hearing, hoping to get full weekend overnight contact every other weekend, and mid-week contact, among other things like holidays.
every case is different.
Hi there,
Just a quick update guys. After 6 months of no contact with my daughter due to Cafcass not present in court for first 2 hearing, court orderd section 7 report. My report came today. I have no mental health issues and Police has cleared me withh all the allegations my ex waife made. Cafcass recommended Fact Finding hearing because now my ex wife is saying that I have an anger issues.
Please help me here. Instead of going forward why my case is going backwards. Fact finding hearing should be before section 7. It means that I have to spend another 3 months without me seeing my daughter. I honestly don't know what is happening. Everytime cafcass involved in my case they either don't turn up or delay the matter. I have no issue about the Fact finding hearing. My problem is I should have some sort of a contact while court is doing all this. Please help
Did you ask for interim contact at the last hearing? The court have to take notice of any allegations ions that are made. When are you next in court?
No I did not ask for interim contact as Cafcass safegaurding letter suggest no contact. They were not even present in the court. I have asked for interim contact now and Cafcass officer said that he will look into availability of contact centre. He also asked me if my family can supervise visits, because my family lives at least 3 hour drive he said its not an option. My question is if they do fact finding hearing now, would judge be able to make an interim order? My understading is Judges do not make any interim contact order before the fact finding hearing. My next hearing is in 2 weeks time.
Kind Regards
You can ask for interim contact at the next hearing, hopefully the CAFCASS Officer will have sorted out a place, it sounds like they will be active in getting some contact started, just from his reaction to your request.
You’ve probably realised by now that the family court tend to have a more flexible approach to procedure, sometimes things can happen out of order... just concentrate on putting your own case across.
All the best
hi Arman,
hang in there and try to be patient. at my hearing, barrister got cafcass and court to dodge a fact finding hearing, and they said they would do section 7 report. at my first hearing, interim order was given for contact. before first hearing i was already seeing kids every saturday for a few months, so they had no reason to stop child contact. we have to be patient and jump through the hoops. you will get there in the end 🙂
Hi bill 337, mojo
Thank you so much for your support. My issue is that if they think Fact finding hearing was necessary then it should have been done before the section 7. Cafcass did not turn up in my 2 hearings. So the Judge order section 7. Now cafcass is saying that they will recommend fact finding hearing. I am not worried about that. All I want is to have some sort of a contact with my daughter. Would Judge be able to order interim contact before the finding of fact hearing?
Kind Regards
sounds like cafcass are being dumb lol. i have read other cases, where at first hearing a cafcass officer just randomly asked for fact finding, and even the judge thought it was unneccesary. theres another thread on here where cafcass recommended a parent to take domestic violence course, then they said they are not sure if he should
really take it!
during my section 7 report interview, i was accused of anger issues, violence. i just admitted to breaking up furniture few years back, and denied the false allegations. the cafcass officer was very professional and understanding. she wrote in the report that this is situational couple violence, and that theres no risk to children, as violence/anger gone now that parents have separated. i dont understand why they are asking for fact finding now. these are the tricky situations to deal with, if you go to court and self-represent. can easily get shafted.
so after your section 7 report came out, did court ask you to prepare a response to it? me and the ex had to. you can still challenge what cafcass recommends in the report. in my case they recommended phone contact. bad idea as ex was asking me to buy a phone lol. so we had that aspect thrown out. you can try argue for interim contact. but if you have not seen your child for 6 months, then i can only assume the court will be wary of giving contact until cafcass give you the green light. try argue for it and see what happens. have a feeling they will suggest 1-2 hours in a contact centre.
Hi bill 337,
This is my problem. Judge decided section 7 in the last hearing and my ex was not willing to give any contact even in contact centre before the section 7. She accused me of Mental health and reported me to police for DV and she said that she is scared that I will take my daughter abroad. Cafcss said after looking at my GP letter that I have no mental issue. Police cleared me and cafcass looked at that report as well. Now the Cafcass officer is saying that my ex wife said that I have anger issues. All I am asking to have some sort of contact with my 2 year old daughter even in contact centre while this case is going. I have not done anything wrong and I am not worried about fact finding hearing. My only issue is that due to cafcass was not present in my first 2 hearing, the contact of my daughter is getting late and late.
One more question please. My section 7 was due on the Friday the 7th of June, I still have not received it through my email. Do you know how long it can take?
Kind Regards
my cafcass officer left it to the very last day to send me the report. if the deadline has passed, you should email the cafcass person who is writing the report and ask about it. do you have her email or phone number?
also check in your junk mail folder, sometimes important stuff can end up in there randomly.
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