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Hi, my partner has been going through court for contact to his two daughters since December, his ex has subjected him to mental health assessments, drug tests, police reports and also claims domestic abuse on an emotional level.
We have so far proved no mental health, no drug issues & no evidence of any police arrests regarding herself even though she says otherwise & has requested a non molestation order which so far has not been permitted on the grounds of no evidence and conflicting statements.
When in the meeting with CAFCASS my partner was told they wanted to recommend supervised contact at minimum and cannot see why he is not having this already, yet when he’s received the section 7 report they have requested he take part in the DAPP course with indirect contact fortnightly only.
Has anyone taken the course? What does it entail? How long does it take to get onto the course and get it completed?
Is there anything else anyone can recommend to help move the situation? He’s constantly worried what nonesense she’s going to come out with next that he’s going to have to prove her wrong on & feels like he is getting absolutely no where with child contact.
Last contact with the children was Feb 2018.
Thanks.
The course is Domestic Abuse Perpetrator Programme.
The DAPP takes place in groups involving 8-12 participants. Sessions are weekly, outside working time, and last for between 2 and 2.5 hours over about six months.
A mid way report will be sent to the court and CAFCASS and then again at completion of the course.
Your partner will be given a referral date by CAFCASS and he will meet with the course manager who will determine if he is suitable for the course.
Note: he will have to admit to the ABUSE to get on the course, if he does not, he will not get on the course and the indirect contact may be the only contact recommended by CAFCASS.
Has there been a Finding of Fact hearing Betty?
Has he spoken to the author of the report to ask why they have changed their position on contact?
When allegations are made, it slows down the court process considerably... a process that is already slow moving! The court has a duty to investigate all concerns where the child’s safety is concerned.
I’ll be honest, the recommendations that are made in the reports for court, are more often than not, followed by the court, but that isn’t always the case, so I suggest your parter concentrates on putting a strong case forward. I would certainly want to understand why cafcass changed their recommendations.
All the best
"When allegations are made, it slows down the court process considerably... a process that is already slow moving! The court has a duty to investigate all concerns where the child’s safety is concerned."
I had a first hearing, made allegations against each other and was told the first hearing would be adjourned so that the scott schedule would be dealt with, it never was and now after the first hearing was rescheduled and I walked out after the corrupt judge took her side on everything and rejected all I requested, including the scott schedule, then had a final hearing without informing me of this, I have to disagree with the above statement that it holds things up, it just gives the female abusers what they wanted! Maybe I should have abused my kids to be the main carer, too late now but I will remember for if I ever have kids again!
Men are weak, women/mothers are always going to win in family courts so why do we even bother?
It’s fine to disagree, but theres some wildly sweeping statements there New-Dad-of-2!
We have had so many Dads here, that have gone through the court process with much success, it’s a very small minority that feel they’ve been totally let down by the system, but it does happen.
I agree with mojo. No system will ever be perfect, but the courts generally get it right more than they get it wrong, and the judges are very professional and concerned with the upholding of the law and the safety of the children. Of course there will always be losers in court. In an ideal world, the parents would be reasonable and we'd never need to resort to court at all - but it's not, and that's where the problem lies.
I must be the case they never heard right then!
Sorry to say that when Children are being abused by the mother, and the Father is deemed as high risk after the mother has said he isn't, you say they are right?
When they refuse to see my evidence against her but hear the lies she tells without any evidence, they are right?
No wonder this country is so messed up and so will the children of the future.
It is criminal to allow a woman to lie in court especially when they have given her not just the kids, but permission to abuse them further.
I am totally gobsmacked by the decision but what more am I meant to do?
Awwww poor woman, she abused 2 girls, she must be going through tough times.
Didums! don't think you can go independant and F**k off the father and expect to abuse kids and put it down to mental health, deny any wrongdoing, but then in the scott schedule admit partially to what I reported her for and the court, cafcass and the system don't want to know. what a disgrace!
Yes its tough going through the courts and more so since covid as the courts are bogged down with cases so there are long delays between hearings. It all takes so long and is very frustrating. Hang on in there and stay calm no matter what.
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