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[Solved] what happens when u start a dad thread on mumnet

 
(@dadmod4)
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You're onto a loser trying that - strictly speaking, I would say it is trolling, but whether you agree with that or not, it's not going to achieve anything in the long run. I don't read mumsnet because I've heard these sort of stories about them before - I have no doubt that there are a lot of good mums on there, but they probably aren't going to stay around for too long because they'll get tired of being grouped in with the extremes.

I like to think that we are more reasonable on here, and although it's primarily aimed at dads, we have given impartial information to mums on here before because ultimately, it doesn't matter what the gender is - if a parent (or preferably both parents) are acting in the best interests of the children, then we'll support that all the way.

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Topic starter Posted : 22/10/2012 1:25 am
(@BabelFish)
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Going on Mumsnet like that was a red rag to a bull. Of all the mums websites they are maybe the most militant on the web.

Trolling - I don't know, I guess the mods on here would be able to tell you that. But if you went on the site to elicit a negative reaction then yes I guess you were trolling.

my core believe is, that a childs happiness and wellbeing should always be put first, and the mothers and fathers own feelings and should never be put before. a child is entitled to a balanced, equal and loving relationship with both parents, it is so important to a childs development, and who is anyone to say otherwise or try and destroy this!

I can agree totally with this sentiment though. I think maybe if your initial post was a bit more considered and represent this view rather than the slightly more antagonistic that you posted then the conversation on the site may have been less fiery in nature.

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Posted : 22/10/2012 7:13 pm
(@dad-i-d)
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Report them to their moderators.

It's funny that they are allowed to get away with things like this but the Fathers4Justice got branded terrorists!

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Posted : 22/10/2012 7:53 pm
(@ChildrensCentre)
Active Member Registered

NB - I am a woman and reading your forum entries.
I feel awkward having read your very honest and raw feelings. There is no mistaking your frustrations. I agree, many men get a lot of 'bad press'. Throw away comments that are made against men aren't perceived as so hurtful and harmful as when they are made against women. .. very unjust, very unfair - regrettably it has become common place. It is unacceptable.
I work in a children's centre and came to your web site after reading a small DAD leaflet I found. We have relatively few dads come to the centre. They don't tend to join in many groups and there appears to be a reluctance to engage in any of the activities. Given some of the experiences you have had perhaps it isn't surprising. We would like Children's Centres to develop things so that dads can access information, have a place to meet, join in activities with their children and generally find them as much support as we provide for mums. Your DAD.info site is brilliant. It is excellent that you have such excellent peer support. Any suggestions as to how a children's centre can address your needs and support you with your children would give us the insight we need to make a positive difference for dads. Any feedback would be welcomed.

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Posted : 23/10/2012 12:50 am
(@dad-i-d)
Noble Member Registered

I will firstly say here that i am not a member of F4J or do i fully agree with the tatctics however it was an article i read either back end of last year or earlier this year that mentioned that the Home Office had aligned F4J along side terrorist groups.
i think it was mainly about anti-terrorism operations in the run up to the London Olimpic Games.
It was also the founder of F4J who added that fathers had less rights in british law than a terrorist has.

I must admit i was quite amused by the fact that F4J targetted M&S one of the Mumsnet sponsors with a campaign to embarass M&S in to pulling sponsorship ties with such extremist anti-male views as are expressed on Mumsnet.

i myself would love to expose my ex for all the horible things she did and continues to do but i would be branded sexist and chauvanistic.....when in actual fact i'm just being factual about just one woman and the one woman in my life who is allowed by the family courts to do what she has and is still doing to me!!!

i wonder if roles were reversed who long it would take for the courts to issue a Fine, Community service or even imprison me for breaking a court order??? not long i would guess....but thats because i'm the non-resident parent....not just because i'm male!

I worry constantly about the affect my ex is having on my son by keeping not letting me see him regularly....especially when she knows the truth in our split....she'll never admit it.....but the proof is there to read for my son when he is old enough.....and when he is 14/15/16/17/18/19/20yrs old whenever he decides he wants to know why i've missed so much of his life.....i will let him see the facts as i've been able to prove that i'm not what my ex tried so hard to claim in her lies. - Strong words calling someone a liar yes i know!...but i have proven them in a court of law and to the relevent parties.....but still she does and gets away with breaking contact for me and my little boy.

When is the country going to get off its backside and realise that both parents are equally valuable to their child's upbringing? obviosly there are some extreme cases out there where there should be restrictions in place for the real safety of the children.....but you only have to look on here at how many fathers are experiencing very similar things.

Thanks Dad Talk / Dad.info for a place to be able to find answers to my situation and allowing me to vent off steam from such frustrating and heartbreaking separation from my litle boy....without you i'd be rocking in a corner :silly:

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Posted : 23/10/2012 4:15 pm
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(@dadmod4)
Illustrious Member

i would reply but i just cant be bothered, itl jus start another massive fight an il end up staying up all night posting again.

Ah, you're learning fast 😀

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Topic starter Posted : 24/10/2012 11:33 pm
(@dadmod4)
Illustrious Member

NB - I am a woman and reading your forum entries.
I feel awkward having read your very honest and raw feelings. There is no mistaking your frustrations. I agree, many men get a lot of 'bad press'. Throw away comments that are made against men aren't perceived as so hurtful and harmful as when they are made against women. .. very unjust, very unfair - regrettably it has become common place. It is unacceptable.
I work in a children's centre and came to your web site after reading a small DAD leaflet I found. We have relatively few dads come to the centre. They don't tend to join in many groups and there appears to be a reluctance to engage in any of the activities. Given some of the experiences you have had perhaps it isn't surprising. We would like Children's Centres to develop things so that dads can access information, have a place to meet, join in activities with their children and generally find them as much support as we provide for mums. Your DAD.info site is brilliant. It is excellent that you have such excellent peer support. Any suggestions as to how a children's centre can address your needs and support you with your children would give us the insight we need to make a positive difference for dads. Any feedback would be welcomed.

Hi

Out of curiosity, roughly where are you based?

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Topic starter Posted : 28/10/2012 12:39 am
(@ChildrensCentre)
Active Member Registered

Thanks for the reply. It took me the longest time to again find the forum I had contributed to! It just goes to show how well used your site is! I'd appreciate the guys coming back to us on how we could facilitate time for them to engage with their children in activities and the first lead that you might like an activity where you can take part with your kids and 'friends' is a start. I am wary of generalising (!) but girls do tend to be happier at dropping in on a group and having a natter - the 'friend' bit seems much easier for us to establish than perhaps for the men. In response to your comment, we are looking at holding a group for dads and their children, away from the childrens centre at somewhere that is more male orientated AND having an activity that the guys can really get involved in too (camp fire singing and outdoor supper). So, thank you for the feedback it was noted and acted upon.

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Posted : 01/11/2012 4:01 pm
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