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I'm going for Argentina as well; the Germans are good but I think the Argentines will have too much experience for them. Then again, I said that about England!
Chris
OK, this is what I've worked out:
Rooney is not alone in woefully underperforming at this years WC. Also, Ribery, Anelka, Torres, Ronaldo, Kaka, ...
England did actually make it to the last 16, unlike France and Italy.
...and, much like Germany and Spain, they were reliant on a decent performance in their last group match to battle into the last 16.
The USA who topped our group, technically went out of the competition before us (by several hours) and to (arguably) lesser opposition.
England are in good company, going out in the last 16, along with Portugal.
...and, of course, Rooney didn't stamp on anyone's testicles, nor did any of our players kick an opposition team member in a girly fashion.
I mean, all things considered, you could argue that we have actually had quite a good tournament 😕
I love your optimism Ratso! When you put it like that, it doesn't seem so bad but you could also say that Ghana got further than us and they didn't even have their best player in Essien. Getting to the quarter finals in previous tournaments was seen as a failure but it means that we were among the top eight teams in the world, is that so very bad?
Chris
...and just to continue with my earlier post about how well England actually did at the WC
Another under-performance from Messi ...greatest player on the planet.
The great Argentina and the even greater Brazil both left the tournament just one game later then England
Argentina thrashed 4-0 by Germany. At least we held them to 4-2 (morally)
You know the more I think about this, the more I think maybe we had a great tournament. Give me another couple of weeks and I'll convince myself we won 🙂
I agree Ratso, maybe positive thinking is the way to go. Argentina get beaten 4-0 and they get a hero's welcome on their return to Argentina and our boys have to slink off through a back entrance because they didn't want to be heckled by the fans!
You mentioned Messi, but what is up with the top players not performing? Rooney, Torres, Ronaldo, Kaka and the list goes on.
Chris
Ok - Holland or Spain ?
My moneys on Spain (and Germany for third place).
Gooner :ugeek:
Wesley Sneijder is on the verge of doing something even the greatest players in the world, like Zidane, never did: win their league, the Champions League, a domestic cup, and the World Cup all in the same year - If Holland win.
What an achievement that would be. 😀
...and the talk today is that Man U are trying to buy Sneijder
...also heard that Arsenal want Ozil. Don't know if there's any truth in that one, but it sounds quite exciting.
I'm sure I heard the other day that IF the Netherlands win, they will have won every single game they have played throughout the campaign; right from the start of the qualifiers. That has to be pretty cool. Has anyone ever done that before?
I would have loved to have seen Germany/Netherlands in the final. As for Spain/Netherlands ...I have no idea. I guess Spain remain the favourites and their playing, at times, is sublime. But what a fairytale come true if the Netherlands nab it.
...anyway, it turns out that I am not as good as an octopus at predicting games, which I find a bit hard to take 😕
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/10521867.stm
I no longer feel qualified to comment on the outcome. So instead I will go and ask my hamster. I will get two nuts and draw an 'S' on one and an 'N' on the other and see which she decides to eat. She's asleep at the moment, so I will wait until she wakes and let you know the (predicted) result later.
Anyone else got any animals they can try this with. Lets see some of that British grit. Lets stand up for ourselves and not be outdone by a German octopus.
[walks off to kitchen to look for bag of nuts, singing Dam Busters theme tune "DAN, DAN, DAN, DA, DA, DA, DA, DA, ..."]
OK - the hamster has spoken. Presented with two nuts, one with an 'N' and one with an 'S', she chose the 'N' nut. Looks like the Netherlands are going to win on Sunday.
Nil - Nil Spain to win on penalties.
Both defensive teams will put up the shutters and it will be a dull game.
We will all spend the next two years considering whether England will win the Euros whilst collecting flags to deliver to Actd ready for the start of the tournament
😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
Nearly right Mario - almost made it to penalties.
We will all spend the next two years considering whether England will win the Euros whilst collecting flags to deliver to Actd ready for the start of the tournament
And harveys dad as well. 😉
OK - the hamster has spoken. Presented with two nuts, one with an 'N' and one with an 'S', she chose the 'N' nut. Looks like the Netherlands are going to win on Sunday.
😆 😆 I think the wheel was turning, ratso, but the Hamster must have been dead.
Ha! Turns out the octopus is a fraud!
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Pa ... 25989.html
I should sue, for the therapy my hamster is currently having to undergo, as a result of this deception.
Slightly more difficult to stomach is this Argentinian ruse. Yuk! http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... ttack.html
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