[Solved] What are the chances judge sends her back?

Hi again

I remember your previous posts, it must be a relief to have your child with you considering the awful situation with your ex.

I completely understand your fears, but try and step back from the emotional side of things... difficult I know, but if you can it will help you to see it more clearly. For a start, the judge is unlikely to order a change of schools, if he felt placing your child with you was only going to be temporary. The outrage that he directed at her also speaks loudly of his opinion of her.

You must carry on putting your case forward, if you can get a letter from the school to state that she is now attending regularly that would be helpful. You should copy off her dental appointment card to show that you have taken care of that too.

Concerning the Jeremy Kyle show, if you can get it downloaded onto a tablet or smart phone, you can take it with you to the next hearing. Prepare a brief position statement to tell the court about it and say that you have a downloaded recording of it with you, if the court wishes to see it. If you can get a recording of the show and transcribe it onto paper, word for word, with some photos of her and her boyfriend taken from the screen, or as a screenshot, you could mention that in your position statement too, and that you have that with you if the court would give you permission to file it.

As there is an interim order for your child to stay with you, only the court can change that. CAFCASS can make recommendations, but are they likely to tell the judge he was wrong, by recommending in their report that your daughter should be returned to the mother...I very much doubt it.

I think you’re on track, but you mustn’t get complacent, remember that the judge will want to dot all the I’s and cross all the T’s and follow procedure... but it looks favourable.

You’re doing great and it looks like you’re on the home run...all the best.

I can't see how the judge will change his mind - everything your ex is doing is making it worse for her. I would be going for supervised contact for her at a contact centre, and for far longer than the usual 6 months.

Shes currently having supervised contact at her parents house. Yet unsupervised in the community.

It’s highly likely she will mess up, at which point you can ask that contact be supervised in a contact centre... it’s not going to be easy... she will continue to lie about her drug use and her relationships, but I’m pretty sure she will come unstuck... we’ve seen it here with other members, it just means you will have to keep a close eye on everything, maybe it would be useful to keep a written record with dates and times.

All the best

Thank you. Weve noted everything. Especially my daughter mentioning going to her mums house. Exs dad asked if we had heard from cafcass (on Friday) told him we were having a visit this week. Last night my daughter told us she was going to be asked who she wants to live with. My wife got some of it recorded. My daughter reckons shes guessed that someone will be asking her where she wants to live. I messaged cafcass today only for cafcass to say she hadnt spoken to my ex. So this should be fun. I didnt know my ex wasnt to know.

lol. dont bother fishing around for info. will only annoy cafcass. when i had my section 7 report done, after the cafcass interview, lady told me she met my kids separately. report stated that she asked them are they happy going to dads house, made them do drawings and finding out which family members are important to them etc. eldest is 5. at that age they wouldnt expect a child to decide who they want to live with. just want to know if their happy or not.

Bill

Its important to keep a record of events, you’re experience is relevant, but outcomes in family courts vary so widely and a lot is dependent on the calibre of judge/magistrates... better to cover everything.

They (CAFCASS) don’t always meet with the children, usually it’s only if it’s specified in the order that children’s wishes and feelings should be sought.

Ajojd... be careful when recording a child, some courts don’t look kindly on this sort of covert monitoring. Try and keep the conversations with your child away from the subject of court proceedings, again it isn’t appropriate to talk with them about it and it might not be viewed favourably by the authorities

All the best

Hi. Just to clarify it was a tiny snippet recorded. It wasn't brought up. My ex was visited yesterday and put across her concerns. Cafcass would only tell us one. She felt my daughter (lo) was to young to be going to a park on her own and we wernt supervising her. However before coming to see us she went to see lo. Lo told her she was upset that we wouldn't let her go to the park on her own. So that was put to bed. The others concerns apparently have been disproved.
However our concerns are rock solid and proven. Cafcass took a copy of the reports and along as she can check her attendance wont be changing the living arrangements 😀

hi mojo, yes I have been keeping records of pick up and drop off times for kids, and any silly incidents that have been happening. put it all into a witness statement, for upcoming final hearing.

Well that sounds extremely favourable! Just stay on track and stay focused... but it does sound pretty cut and dried to me.

All the best

While I'm on I thought I'd give an update. We thought the last hearing would be the last. It isnt. Theres no doubt we will have her perminantly living at home with us.
Ex needed to have done another drug test to be allowed unsupervised contact. This had to be done before the 1st of july. Next hearing is in August. We however know she didnt go for a drug test as she had to pay for it, she did try demanding we paid again and the judge told her it wasnt happening.
I've done another post today. Contact was going fine. Until the grandad who was supervising contact slapped her so hard this weekend that she has a handprint bruise on her leg.