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[Solved] Schools and PR

 
(@parryhotter)
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HI,

I currently have my 8 y/o 50/50, On his mums days sometimes shes in work until 8pm and will send her friend to pick him up from school and keep him there till she finishes work, which neither me or the boy are ever happy about as he could be here for another few hours.
Anyway, last week the mums friend sent me an abusive txt mess while my boy was there so I now want to put a stop to him going there. Just by chance when this happened the school sent him home with a data sheet for contact names and whose allowed to pick him up from school, so I sent a letter back in saying that under no circs is this woman allowed to pick him up from school. Ive been into the school today and the school have said that they cant stop someone from picking him up if the other parent has given their permission!

From reading http://www.education.gov.uk/schools/pupilsupport/parents/a0014568/parental-responsibilit y">this it seems to me that the school should go with the negative as if something happens while hes in the friends care the school could be liable as I told them not to let him go with her.

I know that if hes in the friends house without his mum I could just go and pick him up from there, but it might cause a scene infront of the boy and it wouldnt be very nice for him so I'd rather try to stop it from happening another way.

Thanks !

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Topic starter Posted : 07/10/2014 2:55 pm
(@Nannyjane)
Illustrious Member Registered

...hmm...it might be difficult for the school to go against the mother, but you could try reminding them of the legal implications should anything happen to your child whilst in her care.

She might be worried that if you have him for longer than her, it might affect her child benefit/tax credits/maintenance, just a thought.

You also have the option of mediation to try and get her to agree to you having him when she isn't available to pick him up from school on her days because of work commitments. If you don't agree then you could apply for a Specific Issue Order.

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Posted : 07/10/2014 4:18 pm
(@Mom24)
Estimable Member Registered

Hi

I came across this on my daily Google search..Might apply

Schools are required by the Department for Education to treat both parents equally, and not to discriminate against non-resident parents, but in practice they often ignore this guidance. This is a summary of the advice given; note that it is only sent to head teachers, so other teachers may be unaware of it.

The guidance begins with the definition of a parent from Section 576 of the Education Act 1996 which includes,
all natural parents, whether they are married or not; and
any person who, although not a natural parent, has Parental Responsibility for a child or young person; and
any person who, although not a natural parent, has care of a child or young person

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Posted : 07/10/2014 4:25 pm
(@parryhotter)
Trusted Member Registered

Thanks ladies,

I'm thinking about sending a FOI to the Dept of Education to try and get an official answer to it.

To answer your point about tax credits etc Nannyjane over the past year Ive had him with me for 190 nights so really it should be me who claims, but thats a whole new battle and one I dont feel ready to take on YET!!!

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Topic starter Posted : 07/10/2014 10:06 pm
(@boycieuk)
Prominent Member Registered

You should take it on mate - but I agree in picking your battles wisely and conserving energy for the war 🙂

I would quite the education act - say you wish to highlight your concerns - have you spoken to the headteacher on this?

They may be more reasonable, if not goto the local educational authority. I can understand however it may be a balance between upsetting a school - but this abusive woman should not be having contact with your child when one of his parents is available.

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Posted : 08/10/2014 12:14 am
(@Kirsten)
Reputable Member Registered

Hi there,

You should go and make an appointment with someone from the SLT in the school.
I work in one and I know that both parents have to be treated equally so speaking to
someone from the SLT may bring a good result for you.
Failing that, write to the Board of Govenors and explain the situation to them, but also ask
what the schools policy is on these matters.

Tc
Kirsten

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Posted : 08/10/2014 2:28 am
(@Greyling)
Estimable Member Registered

Hi, have been there, personally and work wise, you ex has PR, she can agree with school who can pick your son up, if the Head agrees with that unfortunately there is very little you can do about it, the only time anyone would intervene, is if you could show that your son was at risk of harm from this person that is picking him up, you should still put your concerns in writing to the head. The same goes for stopping your son going to friend of your ex after school, SS would again only intervene if they had evidence that your son was at risk of harm in going there, don't just turn up at this friends house to pick your son up, could cause lots of problems for you in the future, if you want to do this and you have a social worker involved discuss it with them, don,t go into this with, " I want to stop my son from going to this house", it wont work, you say your concerned about this and believe it would be more beneficial your son being with you till your ex gets home from work, use points like you can support your son with his homework ect. in this time, put the positive things forward in your son being with you rather than negative being with exs friend. I always say when working, its easy to point out negatives trouble is that falls on deaf ears, been heard so many times, you become immune to it, when you here someone putting something positive forward to support a child, you think i'm going to listen to him, see if we can work together.
Greyling

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Posted : 09/10/2014 3:05 am
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