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[Solved] Perjury at Family Court - Police complaint !


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hi there,

as some of you may know that im at the court to revise the contact order .
But my ex made an allegation that i have had committed suicide and have some mental issues, and therefore a supervised contact should be made to see my kid.

I denied her allegation several times and also in my statements, but now court has the GP report which clearly state 'I did' tried to kill myself and never follows appointments with psychologist and never seek any help.

i somehow feels that she will be contacting police and raise it to the court as well.

i spoke to a criminal law solicitor and he confirmed that Perjury is an offence regardless of Criminal law Court or Family Court

Any advise as to how far this can go? what if she complaint the police about this? i knw the Family court wont be bother about this matter but you think the judge will hold me accountable for the offence and pass the matter to criminal court/police?

thanks

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any advise wil be appreciated, many thanks!

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If I’m interpreting this right………you lied in court and your statements about trying to kill yourself?
And the Doctors reports back this up that you tried to kill yourself?

in court were you under oath? did you sware to tell the truth on a bible or to the court?……If you were under oath then yes its perjury......if you signed your statement saying that was too.

Don't panic......Book an appointment and go speak with your doctor and start with the psychologists….if you can now show you are working on your past problems this will look better for you than running and hiding from them. Try and get this in before the next court hearing to then show you're working on your past problems

Your ex may try and push all your buttons now and make life incredibly difficult for you so you may need the added support that the psychologists can offer you.

When you’re back in court be honest with the judge about things, there’s no point in trying to lie about it any more…..this is just my opinion here….did you lie about it because you were scared of losing seeing your child?....i’d use that sort of thing in court to defend why you tried to hide that from them.

It’s a sign of strength not weakness to seek help.

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yea, you got it right Sir!
well, i did signed the statement and also it was noted in the contact order(that Applicant deny all the allegation from the Responded mother pertaining to his mental health)

I was going through the rules under Perjury Act and it seems to be a tough one!

i spoke to a criminal law solicitor for an advice and he told me that the situation May get troublesome if my ex or his solicitor make a police complaint on this matter.

will I be charged if theres a police complaint? what a police could do in this case?

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Honest answer is I don’t know….i’d try and play it down as much as you can but depends on your ex and how she decides to play it out.
If they approach you then stick to your guns and explain you were so scared of it going against you and scared it would prevent you for seeing your child.
There is a link to the CLC here…. http://www.childrenslegalcentre.com/ drop them a call and speak with them for a better legal perspective.

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Hi

Dad-i-d I think this member has a solicitor...I would also suggest that you have a look through his previous posts. He admits to Domestic Violence against his present wife, he admits to anger issues and shouting at his daughter, he doesnt feel he should have to pay maintenance and he was advised a long time ago on here to tell the truth about his mental health history. This perjury situation has been around for a couple of years and he has received advice on numerous ocassions here....

Info, as I said to you before, with your history of violence, anger issues and a lack of remorse for your behaviour and your continued refusal to seek help for these issues, I think your daughter needs to be protected and at the very most your contact should be supervised at a Contact Centre for the foreseeable future. I think supervised contact is generous in the circumstances and it wouldn't surprise me if the judge ordered indirect contact only.

I may seem harsh but I feel strongly that until you start to take responsibility for your actions, stop lying and get help, your daughter needs to be protected.

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you may add more to that - not a better husband, not a nice son, not good in anything…
but it never turned out in a continuance like the way you have described in your post, it happened over the period of time with many circumstances involved.
fyi(btw which is not relevant to this post) my ex happens to agree for a supervised contact at my parents residence.

the reason i lied was i didnt wanted my parents to know what i been through and especially not my kid. ofcourse i was hoping my ex could let it go as it was in the past!

Nannyjane, you needs to less judgmental and more advisable on the present Post- rather than digging in the past posts! if you cant give any advise on This post- dont post any replies!

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Info, you're out of order! Lay off NJ, she is one of the most productive responders on this board & always willing & happy to help anyone despite her own family traumas at the moment!
How you can consider expecting contact is beyond me - there are so many dad's on this board who are fighting against lies - its people like you that are the reason the courts have to be so cautious in the first place!

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NJ – the opinion I gave was purely based on the post and having not read the previous posts....and i have to agree 100% with your post given the back ground of issues admitted.

INFO – looking at the whole picture I will also stand by my original post, go get help and speak with a doctor and work with the psychologists.......work on your issues and prove to your ex and the people trying to help you that you deserve to be a part of your child's life.
Honesty is the best policy….if you really want to be a part of your childs life you are going to have to prove it given your past.

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well i am trying!
you know howz the GPs works- one day i will go there with my innocent face saying that i dont have problems anymore and next day i get a clean GP report..VOILA!

but if she tried to make any police complaint or try to make more fuss on this Prejury issue of mine, im going to make false allegation of phyiscal absue against her and her partner ..and wont let my daughter go with her..even though she's residence parent but i will regard as a safety of my child 👿

thats the best option i can see at this time

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Yes you are very trying!

You can't go making false allegations about the mother of your child! Your just as bad or worse than some of the nasty women that cause so much pain to the Dads on here. JAMES33 is right it's people like you that give Dads a bad name.

The best option you have is to take some responsibility for your actions and start to get help and make some changes.

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thanks Nannyjane for summing it up! 😆

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you may add more to that - not a better husband, not a nice son, not good in anything…
but it never turned out in a continuance like the way you have described in your post, it happened over the period of time with many circumstances involved.
fyi(btw which is not relevant to this post) my ex happens to agree for a supervised contact at my parents residence.

the reason i lied was i didnt wanted my parents to know what i been through and especially not my kid. ofcourse i was hoping my ex could let it go as it was in the past!

Nannyjane, you needs to less judgmental and more advisable on the present Post- rather than digging in the past posts! if you cant give any advise on This post- dont post any replies!

I think NJ has given you advice on this post but she is also including information from past posts, you have joined an open forum and have discussed you issues and concerns and we are all here to help and advise you where possible.

NJ gives good advise based on the information available to her.

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Info, you're out of order! Lay off NJ, she is one of the most productive responders on this board & always willing & happy to help anyone despite her own family traumas at the moment!
How you can consider expecting contact is beyond me - there are so many dad's on this board who are fighting against lies - its people like you that are the reason the courts have to be so cautious in the first place!

Hi james,

I understand you frustration and your post but everyone on this forum is entitled to an oppinion and to ask for advice, we can only act on information given and give advice based on that information. I think that Info himself has said he feel supervised contact is best and thats how he wants it to remian.

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Yes you are very trying!

You can't go making false allegations about the mother of your child! Your just as bad or worse than some of the nasty women that cause so much pain to the Dads on here. James is right it's people like you that give Dads a bad name.

The best option you have is to take some responsibility for your actions and start to get help and make some changes.

I agree with NJ, and feel you need to get some help so you can make some changes in your life and move forward, I wouldn't agree though that you give fathers a bad name, though the post's you have made here aren't really helping your
plight for help.

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Hi Guys,

I don't want to lock or moderate this topic too much as there is some healthy discusion and at the end of the day Info requires some advice.

But please be polite to each other as this is a friendly board and we want it to remain that way.

GTTS

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Hi Info.

You have taken exception to NJ's post regarding making false allegations against your ex. Are you really surprised about her reaction? Look at the title of this thread (which you created) - you seriously expect to get advice about what is likely to happen when you have committed perjury, when you are talking about doing the same again? If it was a joke, then it was misplaced in the context of the advice sought.

As for objecting to bringing up the past - any advice given on here has to be given based on the whole picture, otherwise it may not be the best we can give. You can disregard the advice given - that's your choice - but you can't expect us not to give the best advice we are able, and we can only do that using all of the information we have available, however inconvenient that may be.

Finally, you will have noticed people rallying round NJ - that's because she has genuinely help an awful lot of people on here, and she is very much appreciated and respected for her help and advice. My best suggestion to you at this stage is to consider carefully hers, and others' opinions, as they are given with the best of intentions.

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JAMES33 I've sent you a pm 🙂

Judges take a very dim view of lying/perjury. You've already perjured yourself over your mental health issues, if you make false allegations of violence against the mother and her partner, and keep the child without the mothers consent thats purjury and abduction. Keep behaving like that and its likely that all contact with your child will be stopped completely.

GTTS...When Dads post on here and talk about ex's that make false allegations and are violent towards them, we are quick to condemn them and call them bad mothers. It's not usual to get fathers posting here and admitting to the kinds of things that Info has done, but just because its a friendly forum doesnt mean we cant comment on his behaviour...Its wrong when mothers behave badly, but its equally wrong for fathers to do so too. If we consider that a woman who behaves in a similar way to Info is a bad mother, then the same should apply if a man is behaving badly, he too could be considered a bad father. That said, I do appreciate why you felt the need to comment. 🙂

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I understand where Nannyjane coming from but not nice advice to call-Your just as bad or worse than some of the nasty women that cause so much pain to the Dads on here..its funny actually 🙂

anyways Thank you Moderators for acknowledging my report on the comments.

I will ensure that i will be explicit in my post next time, and seek advice not based on the past post... else wouldnt be better to create new logins for every post..

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Well think about it Info - how many men come on here suffering at the hands of their ex's who make false claims of DV against them - it's certainly not funny, and it causes a lot of heartache, and possibly a lot worse. If you are prepared to make the same false allegations, what separates you from those women?

Of course, what you have done that is foolish beyond belief, is that you have posted your potential intentions on an open public forum. There have been instances in the past on here where it's possible the ex's have been keeping an eye on what is posted on here. In fact, on another forum (now defunct) about 5 years ago, friends of mine alerted me to the fact that my ex was posting false claims against me (she wasn't aware that I knew of the forum), including one very serious allegation - easily disproved, but it was part of the evidence I used against her when I went back to court to get her contact reduced from twice a month to once a month. That, I assume, is not what you are hoping to achieve.

Edit: [censored] - this was not a post I was expecting to be my 4,000th posting 🙂

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