Parental Responsibility Order

Posted by: @parkside357

Hi

When a father applies for a PRO, and it goes to a court decision, what factors and evidence are considered by the court in deciding whether or not to grant a father parental responsibility?

Or put a different way, if it was accepted and not disputed that the applicant was the father, on what grounds would a court not grant him a PRO?

Has anyone been through the process of having to secure parental responsibility via this route?

Thanks

I had to gain parental responsibility earlier this year while the mother was opposing it.   It was undisputed that I was the children's biological father. 

I think to be denied it,there would have to be serious genuine concerns as why it would be opposed such as child abuse or something similar along them lines.

Someone else on the forum should be able to confirm this in case I am wrong.

Posted by: @parkside357

Hi

When a father applies for a PRO, and it goes to a court decision, what factors and evidence are considered by the court in deciding whether or not to grant a father parental responsibility?

Or put a different way, if it was accepted and not disputed that the applicant was the father, on what grounds would a court not grant him a PRO?

Has anyone been through the process of having to secure parental responsibility via this route?

Thanks

Even though all we want is a fair and equal involvement in the decisions of our own children - All the mother has to do is say ‘control’ and then the judge fobs it off to Cafcass with a section 7.

Surly this is control in itself by a Mother registering a child behind a Fathers back?

These women know exactly what they are doing to manipulate this system.

@dadlad thanks 

what do you mean by control in this context? Also is this from experience? 

I’ve read that unless there are serious welfare concerns it should be granted 

Posted by: @parkside357

@dadlad thanks 

 

what do you mean by control in this context? Also is this from experience? 

I’ve read that unless there are serious welfare concerns it should be granted 

If there are no safeguarding concerns raised then you should be granted it.

if not.. All the mother has to say is that having parental responsibility will be a way to control (if already accused of domestic abuse)

The judge will then fob it off to Cafcass to investigate in a section 7 report (just as a precaution) its just a stone in your shoe and a way mothers abuse the court system to alienate you.

Stay strong brother and remember that this is a marathon not a race. Once you have jumped through every hoop and proved everything possible the mother will have zero excuses and won’t be able to stop you.

Play the game. Get Cafcass on side and you are already halfway there!

@parkside357 yes if mother is refusing to add you onto birth certificate, then you can request courts to do it. declaration of parentage: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-c63-application-for-declaration-of-parentage-under-section-55a-of-the-family-law-act-1986

Posted by: @parkside357

@dadlad thanks 

 

what do you mean by control in this context? Also is this from experience? 

I’ve read that unless there are serious welfare concerns it should be granted 

Roughly how old is the child?

@mrstrange a month, birth cert hasn’t even been signed yet as far as I know

@parkside357 

Great. As mentioned above. Filling in a C5 form is a good starting point. The process could involve a DNA test.

Be positive. The court’s is pro contact for both parents. Their position is that a deep and meaningful relationship with both parents is good for the development of a child unless it’s unsafe. 

It’s important to have the right expectations. Contact for baby will either start with supervised contacted or supported contact with the mum being present. The latter is more flexible and practical for a child of that age. Therefore try maintain a positive relationship with the mum if you can. Don’t get angry/rattled, harass or threaten the mum, or else she could be granted a non-molestation order against you which could frustrate contact.

Overnight contact is usually not ordered before the child has turned 18-24 months. This is one of the downsides of separating when the child is a baby. On the positive side, the child is too young for their wishes to be considered, therefore it’s more likely than not that you will be ordered contact with your child.

@dadlad is there anything i can do to put a marker down with Cafcass incase it has to go down that route. There has been no dom abuse, physical or anything that could be levelled at me

@parkside357 

Have you had your Cafcass phone interview yet?

Posted by: @mrstrange

@parkside357 

Great. As mentioned above. Filling in a C5 form is a good starting point. The process could involve a DNA test.

 

Hi, C5 form is not correct one to use. Form C5: Application concerning the registration of a child-minder or provider of day-care