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Hi guys
Firstly wanted to say a massive thank you for replying to my previous questions on here on the run up to my case. My case got dismissed on the basis that my children should get used the this routine forced on them up to 12 months and apparently 6 months into this routine is not long enough for time to adjust. According to biased caffcass I should be grateful for the time I’ve got and enjoy it.
One of the magistrates said to me and my barrister, “you get more time than what most fathers get” has really got to me, I get every other weekend and tea after school if the wicked ex actually allows it, most wednesdays she limits me to pick them up at 5 and returns them at 6.30!
. I find his comment hugely insulting to all fathers, what hope do we have when the magistrates minds are already thinking that way!
I almost want to make a complaint, but worry in case I’m just thinking too much about it emotionally. What do you guys take from this comment. I went to get more time with my children especially since I had them for 12 months when we split up, she refused them contact with me for 4 months purely for malicious intentions and has been nothing but difficult with this current arrangement and that comment essentially not listening to my views and historical nurturing at all really upsets me.
Thanks
Leedave
Hey,
My partner has his daughter every other sat-sun and no midweek contact.
The court order says to increase time during school holidays and since it was manipulated and not followed he went back to court and asked for it to be more structured and to extend his time to Friday - Sunday and midweek phone call.
The magistrates said the exact same thing to him, that he should be happy for the time he gets with his child as it's more than what most fathers get. And to be honest it really emotionally affected him (and us) like it probably has you.
I certainly do not agree with this comment and do not think the father's should be compared against each other. You all have your individual cases and backgrounds and at the end of the day you are all going to court to fight to see your child/children so I think it's an extremely unfair comment but seems to be said more often than I thought.
I find it absolutely disgraceful that this comment seems to have been said more than once. How can they think it’s even an acceptable comment! To automatically be thinking that way.
things have moved on since the time where there were just weekend fathers, in fact I now realise that they actually had no hope in the family courts and the fact that the magistrates clearly don’t even take this into consideration is beyond disgraceful. They are happy forcing children with limited access to their fathers purely because its what the average father gets???? All cases are individual !
I’d be interested to know which court your partner went too. Are you due to go back?
Thanks
Yes we are due back in March and April.
It has been a long case... have been in and out of court since 2016.
Due to the mother refusing contact and not following the order he went back to get additional time just to hear that comment.
Most recently..
He applied last March as the mother refused to extend the time for Easter holidays. He had a court date before Easter holidays and the court instructed a s7 report due to allegations. They did not comment on additional time etc so he missed out for the 2nd year in a row for easter contact being extended.
They returned back mid July (for outcome of s7 report) and the report was not submitted to the court in time and therefore the judge dismissed it, however this time they did instruct the mother to give additional time during the summer period. (this was a district judge)
They went back to court after but nothing was done as mother and father couldnt agree contact. why they didnt just follow the s7 report at that moment in time is beyond me but they transferred the case to a different court for the next 2 final hearings. I think it is because they want the cafcass officer that carried out the S7 report present at the hearing.
I am just hoping in the upcoming cases, they do not have that approach they previously had - to be honest i believe its the luck of the judge.
Before this experience i always wondered how fathers could walk away from their child/children and never understood it (i was very naive) but after actaully experencing it with my partner, it no longer surprises me and its so sad! I am sure to say that if i didnt find this site, and without my support, my partner would have walked away from all of it a long time ago. His interest is to see his child but the mother's allegations has caused so much stress.
Fathers can be in and out of court, having done no wrong, fighting to see their child/children and easily get dismissed or are expected to be happy they have contact!
I have Pm'd you.
Here’s a link to a previous thread, which you might find useful, and a link to some further info
https://www.dad.info/forum/welcome-to-the-forum/50635-unhappy-with-cao-and-court-come
So sorry you had such poor service.
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