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 Yoda
(@yoda)
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If you're currently having access, there's no reason for it to stop during proceedings.

Also, remember that these are just Cafcass recommendations, not the order of the court yet. If you have a smart and astute judge, once you point out that these issues have previously been dealt with and contact ordered, there should be no need for a S7, they might agree with you.

Best of luck

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Posted : 01/05/2017 12:12 am
(@Villarkita)
Eminent Member Registered

If you're currently having access, there's no reason for it to stop during proceedings.

Also, remember that these are just Cafcass recommendations, not the order of the court yet. If you have a smart and astute judge, once you point out that these issues have previously been dealt with and contact ordered, there should be no need for a S7, they might agree with you.

Best of luck

Thank you for your post.

I think it's quite likely the S7 will go ahead. An uncle on the mothers side is due to get out of prison shortly (child pornograpghy, voyuerism and possibly rape) I raised the issue of that with cafcass as they seem to think he's innocent even though he pleaded guilty. That obviously concerns me and makes me worried they may break his orders.

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Topic starter Posted : 01/05/2017 12:20 am
 Yoda
(@yoda)
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You can ask the court to make an interim order for a Prohibited Steps Order so that he can't come near your child until at least the S7 is complete.

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Posted : 01/05/2017 12:59 am
(@Villarkita)
Eminent Member Registered

You can ask the court to make an interim order for a Prohibited Steps Order so that he can't come near your child until at least the S7 is complete.

Thanks for the reply.
I will come back when I get my report from cafcass and hopefully you people can help me digest it.
I don't think he will be out of prison before it's complete as his parole hearing hasn't even been scheduled yet as far as I'm
Concerned.

I have started putting together my position statement for court as I only have 8 days left till court I will probably spend a few days doing this and would appreciate it if someone could take a look when it's done and offer me some feedback on it.

Thanks for the advice

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Topic starter Posted : 01/05/2017 1:19 am
 Yoda
(@yoda)
Famed Member

Hi

Just remember that the initial Cafcass Safeguarding Letter will be brief and outline how they think the court should progress.

Your Position Statement should be very brief, no longer than two pages. Give a little bit of background, tell the court why you are making the application and what you would like them to do. If you are sent the Cafcass letter prior to the hearing, you could write one point to say that you have had sight of it & if you disagree with the the recommendations, say why. For example, you could say " I have had sight of the Cafcass Schedule 2 Safeguarding letter and disagree with the need for a Section 7 Welfare Report. The reasons given by the Cafcass officer are historic issues that have already been dealt with during previous proceedings".

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Posted : 01/05/2017 12:52 pm
(@Villarkita)
Eminent Member Registered

So when I spoke to cafcass last week they said I would have my report by Wednesday and if I did I should call up.
I called this morning and was informed the document should be filed with the court today! Just called up now and still no report has been filed.

I must admit I'm slightly worried as I was waiting for the report before completing my position statement. How would be best for me to proceed?

Thanks for reading

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Topic starter Posted : 04/05/2017 7:50 pm
(@Villarkita)
Eminent Member Registered

I got my report from cafcass today.

Would it be possible for a moderator to have a look over it and give me some input from a nuetral point of view?

Thanks

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Topic starter Posted : 05/05/2017 5:42 pm
 Mojo
(@Mojo)
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I've send you a PM

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Posted : 05/05/2017 11:09 pm
(@Villarkita)
Eminent Member Registered

never mind I've found it.

Thank you

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Topic starter Posted : 06/05/2017 12:04 am
(@Villarkita)
Eminent Member Registered

It’s never just easy is it?

So I spoke to social services after the end order and it was stated that my girl should have no contact with the offender at all!

My girls mum has recently had another child and it would seem her mother seems to be giving more care to my daughter.

They were concerns that the grandma would facilitate and push for contact with the uncle which was why social services stated the no contact at all.

So just recently it has come to my attention that the uncle has moved down the same street a the grandma.... so it’s extremely likely contact has or will take place at some point. I’ve spoken to social services and they’re likely to reaffirm that no contact is to be made at all.

To be honest I feel like nobody is listening to me and that my little girl is at risk from this monster. To make matters worse I know they have had my daughter lie to me on more than one occasion.

Any advice anyone?

Thanks for reading 🙂

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Topic starter Posted : 03/09/2018 5:25 pm
(@dadmod4)
Illustrious Member

Might be worth having a word with the Family Rights Group to see if they can advise - www.frg.org.uk - but I think your best bet is to keep in touch with Children's services to see how they believe that the order can be checked or policed. Otherwise, it might be a matter of trying to get some proof if you think the no-contact rule is being ignored.

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Posted : 04/09/2018 11:33 pm
(@Villarkita)
Eminent Member Registered

Might be worth having a word with the Family Rights Group to see if they can advise - www.frg.org.uk - but I think your best bet is to keep in touch with Children's services to see how they believe that the order can be checked or policed. Otherwise, it might be a matter of trying to get some proof if you think the no-contact rule is being ignored.

Thanks for the reply.

I’ve spoken to social services and they have said they have said that they have told mum that no contact is to take place.

How can no contact take place when he lives with the great grandmother who lives on the same street as the grandmother? The street is also a dead end.
I’ve spoken to social services and they pretty much said they have no way to police it at all and that I’ll just have to rely on my daughter telling me! They already have her lie to me.

I guess my only option is to consider a prohibited steps order to try and stop my daughter going to those houses but then how do I police that?

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Topic starter Posted : 06/09/2018 8:47 pm
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