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[Solved] how do i get ex's mental state assessed?

 
(@dad-i-d)
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As per title.

I fear her irrationality and extreme hostility toward contactf or me and my child is damaging my child's emotional wellbeing....I want to get her stopped from continuing to harm my child but I come across as just a bitter ex

I feel lost now and need help to fight this pathetic excuse for a mother.

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Topic starter Posted : 01/10/2015 2:38 pm
(@Mom24)
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Hi
Have you requested a Court Appointed Guardian?

I think we have similar cases..

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Posted : 01/10/2015 3:19 pm
 Yoda
(@yoda)
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Has there been any history of mental illness and have the court at any point requested her medical records? That can be a way.....

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Posted : 02/10/2015 10:45 am
(@crocsarecrap)
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Out social worker suggested this due to exs mental health past, then she left!!!
I tried so hard to get this and put it in my personal statement fr court but they just dismissed it. I guess I looked bitter to.
Now, like a smack in the face the family support worker doesn't feel he's stable enough to care for a child and guess what, she's gone off on long term sick!!!!!!!

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Posted : 03/10/2015 1:15 am
(@The Guvnah)
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and guess what, she's gone off on long term sick!!!!!!!

What the [censored] is wrong with these people? Terminal hypochondria that's what! Honestly in the past 16 months of dealing with this system I've lost count of the number of times our allocated Soc wnkrs, "single Point of Contacts" 'critical stakeholders' and admin staff hacks have gone AWOL through "extended illness".

Seriously, their offices must be like a scene from the living Dead, the bodies of the lame and dying litter the car park, sub-contract agency sprogs lie collapsed in the stairwells through sheer exhaustion as they attempt desperately to get to the top floor to get their final time sheet signed by the Ops Manager. Unfortunately he died of acute embarrassment 5 days earlier, the last duty care officer reaches out a quivering hand to the phone that's been ringing unanswered for two days now but kerblammo! his publicduty gland explodes into a subdural heamatoma and it's lights out. Oh the inhumanity! Won't ANYBODY care?

No frankly.

As for accessing your ex's mental health records? pfffffft! that's a massive minefield and one that I'm making a fair job of clearing a way through right now in relation to my own dear Wife. Standard cop out reply will revolve around 'patient confidentiality'. But that is most definitely NOT the be all and end all. I think I have found a safe route by which it might be achieved. If you skip over to my post in the next few days I'll be posting up some very interesting provisions and conditionalities i have discovered that take their erroneous reliance on the blanket application of the Data Protection Act designed and deployed (so they would have you believe) to keep you out of the loop and blow it out of the water.

http://www.dad.info/forum/legal-eagle/44436-dpa-requests-patient-confidentiality-conflicts

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Posted : 24/11/2015 3:28 am
(@dad-i-d)
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I was sent a copy of the section of the Part 25 practice direction from the ex's solicitor based on the judge telling her to forward me after i said that i may wish to make an application to the Court for a psychological assessment of the ex.

Practice Direction 25A –
Experts and Assessors in Family Proceedings
This Practice Direction supplements FPR Part 25

needless to say i've read through it and having no legal knowledge or having had no one able to advise i've left this one alone as it's going to cost me loads more that i cannot afford.

so i'm basically no pinning hopes on using a McKenzie friend and fingers crossed the Par Bro Bono Unit..........if they can get a result then you may see me in the inner pages of some tabloid in a Batman costume chained to a public building somewhere

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Topic starter Posted : 24/11/2015 9:31 pm
(@LukeyBoy)
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Just a note with regard to Socal Services......

We all have our opinions - mine isn't particularly high of them but I have a friend who works as a child protection officer and I'm told that people just burn out - the stress of what they see and deal with and the caseloads do them in.

I was told this is why the turnover of staff is high and also why there are so many off sick.

Seems to make sense to me. Doesn't help but I wonder if, at times, we should cut them some slack - we may view them as the devil incarnate but the reality is they are only human.

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Posted : 24/11/2015 10:24 pm
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(@The Guvnah)
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As per title.

I fear her irrationality and extreme hostility toward contactf or me and my child is damaging my child's emotional wellbeing....I want to get her stopped from continuing to harm my child but I come across as just a bitter ex

I feel lost now and need help

Chap I absolutely know where you're at and I'll gladly chip in what I can but first off I have to repeat Yoda's question about her mental health history, is there any? Second; this is now a Child Safeguarding issue and as such the court and all affiliated entities should be taking it extremely seriously.

When you were together were there any symptoms or manifestations of it that might/will have been independently and verifiably recorded in any way i.e. through a police attendance to an incident, the school had to intervene or you informed them of some incident that concerned you, any GP intervention etc, even affidavits from family or friends or work colleagues that sort of thing. This will be an important factor to establish in establishing your credibility and that this isn;t just 'sour grapes' on anybody's part.

to fight this pathetic excuse for a mother.

Don't know your circumstances or your missus but I do know the one thing that's kept me going so far through my own Wife's descent into psychosis is understanding that it's NOT HER doing this it's her ******* illness, That is what I have to be angry with otherwise it would be impossible for the searing frustration not to turn eventually to hate. My ire is much better re-directed upon the state services that have so comprehensively and demonstrably failed us and most importantly her. It helps to keep focus and fortifies one for the unavoidable and protracted battles one must now engage with the system.

I was sent a copy of the section of the Part 25 practice direction from the ex's solicitor based on the judge telling her to forward me after i said that i may wish to make an application to the Court for a psychological assessment of the ex.

Practice Direction 25A –
Experts and Assessors in Family Proceedings
This Practice Direction supplements FPR Part 25

needless to say i've read through it and having no legal knowledge or having had no one able to advise i've left this one alone as it's going to cost me loads more that i cannot afford.

Well it's only a string of words so what have we got here...yada yada... blahdee blah......diddely doo diddley doooo............OK, think I've got the jist.
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1.1 - just the preamble

2.1 - how urgent is this? Looks like this bit doesn't apply unless you're wanting it in process by tomorrow morning.

3.1 - seems to describe the sequencing and letter exchanges required by court procedure regarding a formal request to 'an expert' by the court instructing them to compile the report. Warns him that he will be expected to be prepared to have to attend court on the day if necessary.

3.2 - talks about the form and content of the letter you or anyone else needs to write to the chosen expert and that it has to comply with whatever appears in 25C...
https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/family/practice_directions/practice-direction-25c-children-proceedings-the-use-of-single-joint-experts-and-the-process-leading-to-an-expert-being-instructed-or-expert-evidence-being-put-before-the-court

3.3 - says that the court's permission will be required if you want to have expert evidence presented to it but that permission seems to have been impliedly granted by dint of the fact that it was the judge who instructed the other party's solicitor to send you all that. In fact it could be argued that the court has already actively invited its submission by that act. Did they in any way give the impression that it wouldn't be welcomed?

All the above subject to correction by someone who actually knows this stuff.

Guv

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Posted : 27/11/2015 6:17 am
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