[Solved] help!! very worried for my grandaughter

Thankyou very much for your help and advice, yes my son does have PR.
Family Lives advised him not to hand her back and contact soc serv. He did this, but the aunt just turned up on Sunday and pretended she had a present for the child in the car, bundled her into car and took her!!!
I now know she is back with the mother.
We also did not know about emergengy residence,

son has called social worker who is involved 3 times today as she is meant to be paying a visit tomorrow...still no response from her been waiting for a call back to update her of what has happened over the weekend.
Also found out the Police never bothered to contact SS. The police operator sent a car within minutes as said it was kidnap. but when car arrived said can't do anything!!!
They said it wasn't worth them contacting SS as it was a Saturday + they prob wont get hold of them....
Unbelievable!!!!

Unfortunately, the police are right about contacting the SS at weekends 😡 Obviously, the mother is going to be wary, but if there's any way you can get her back (without breaking the law), then that's the way to go initially, and if the mother's sister can assist, that might be the way to do it. But, as I said, make sure you are within the law - is there any way the police will accompany you to the mothers to assist you?

the child is back with her mother, she sent me a nasty facebook inbox message saying that my son + I are sick! and that we will never see the child again!!. we trusted the sister who has raised massive concerns for so long.Then she did the opposite(I think pressured from family, it can't be easy calling SS on ur own sister) The mother is a hypochondriac, and I'm not just saying that, she has always been that way, she calls an ambulance with her make believe illnesses, even told us she'd been in hospital 36 times in 3 months. said doctors are baffled as can't find anything wrong(cos there isn't) She has now started to make out child is ill!! had a call approx a year ago saying was in hospital as child having seizures.... my son and I raced there, there was nothing wrong, she was sent tests, again nothing... then she alleged sexual abuse, we were called by police child protection, they said childs story totally diff to mothers. and that in all policemans 25yrs with child protection he assured us that he believed nothing happened.
anyway was an investigation, and tried saying little boy at school had done something, child was examined 2 independant docs, case closed as they believe nothing happened.
I also believe nothing happened. but do believe the mother has major mental issues.
we have raised concerns, but have found that police don't want be involved, and SS in Kent KSCB whom the child is under, never call back!!!
son has just sent an email to ask for copies of 'ALL' reports SS have. Tried to fax them never any answer!!!
To be honest, he is finding this very hard to deal with. we have tried do everything above board, and it just backfired.
We also think that the mother is going to make up loads of lies, as has already done so. We want see those reports.

also hoping we applied to the correct place for SS reports

been trying to call Coram Childrens Legal Centre for almost a week and all we get is "all operators busy, please see website for factsheets + advice, Goodbye!"

I do understand they are very busy and they have been great advice on here, but really need to actually speak to someone as such a long complicated story

Have had a response from the email.

I have received your request to see documents held in our records about your daughter. I have asked the Access to Records Officer to contact you to start this process. At least we know they have been received at right place 🙂

Can you screenshot the Facebook message from your sons ex? It would be a good idea to start a diary of events and gather any evidence, copies of text, emails and entries on Facebook can all serve to build your case....just don't rise to them and always try and be reasonable and calm if you do respond.

Coram also have live webchat have you tried that?

I have screen shots of everything going back 2 years, so does my son, have been blocked by her on social media now(thankfully) and luckily for us she chooses to put everything on fb!!! and elsewhere. have loads evidence. from whole situation, am so glad I found this site, have had so much info on here. I agree with what you say regarding not losing your cool. Its so easy to bite but I do not rise to it anymore.. Thankyou

I've PMd you

not been on for a while, had too much going on, ny dad very ill.... anyway I had a call today from a lady about 'FAMILY GROUP CONFERENCING' she explained that social services involved regarding my grandaughter(I know this anyway) She said that there are concerns that the mothers care for Grandaughter may deteriorate, She wasn't aware of all the things that have recently occured!!
She is now!! She is coming to visit my son + I on Tues, then is planning a meeting with her family + us together...
Does anyone know anything about this or been there? Is it a legal thing.. have soc services made the refferal... or the childs family..