[Solved] grandparents and child arrangements order

Hi there

Yes they can, but they would need to ask permission to start proceedings first and this is done with form C2.

do they also need both parents to give over responsibility.

What do you mean?

The parents won't be asked to give up their PR and it can be awarded to others such as grandparents and guardians of the child, so there could be 3 or 4 people involved with the child that have PR.

I must advise you that courts have very mixed attitudes towards granting an order for contact to grandparents.

my son is the one going for the arrangements order, but they will be living with me, I will be the one getting the child to school etc. its a very complicated case.
I took the child home today, and nobody home(mum), not the 1st time this has happened. she is now back with me.
we have a court date in 2 weeks, I just wondered wether I need apply for a joint arrangements

It would probably be better for you to apply to be joined as a party in existing proceedings and you would use the same form, the C2 to make the application.

thankyou. This has all come around so quickly.
I found the info I needed regarding the joint child arrangements. I'd actually downloaded it ages ago. I think I've downloaded and researched too much, to the point that I have brain overload. It maybe too late to submit it now... Sadly you always realise what you should have done when it's too late.
I'm so nervous about the 1st hearing(less than 2 weeks away).
I must say, that I've kept very civil with the ex and she's been great regarding contact. I had my granddaughter all over xmas from boxing day till yesterday. in fact when we went to take her home on Saturday as planned,we got a text saying why don't you keep her another day? great by us. 🙂
Then when we drove her home Sunday, nobody was in yet again!! its a 100 mile round trip. We had to bring her home with us again(I was happy, GD happy)

the social worker has said we are being accused of alcohol abuse(or of concern) I may have a glass of wine on occasion,(weekends maybe when I'm not being taxi service to all ) she said that's perfectly normal, not illegal. but has to include in her report to court as feels the Ex will use anything..
What gets me, if she was concerned of alcohol abuse, why would I be having my granddaughter every other weekend and most of school hols.
Police checks and GP checks being done on myself and my son(nothing to hide)
can't wait till this is over. I can't sleep and worry all the time!! my GD is only 6yrs old
Thankyou for listening,

I would strongly suggest following Mojo's advice of applying on a C2 to add yourself as a party to proceedings before this first hearing takes place, that way you will be allowed to attend the hearing with your son. If you are not party to proceedings, it will be down to the discretion of the judge whether you are allowed to enter the courtroom under 'McKenzie Friend Guidance'. It is highly unlikely they will allow this but even if they do, you will not be able to speak during the proceedings.

If you add yourself as a party to the application, you will be able to address the court when necessary.

Good luck

thankyou, would this make the hearing adjourned as it's only just over a week away.

I doubt it, but I would check this with the court, if as is likely, it hasnt been dealt with by the the time of the hearing your son can broach it in court and ask if you may be allowed to sit in as the application has already been submitted.

Again give Coram a call about this to clarify.

Thankyou for your help, I will call them

The social worker involved in the case has to file a report and recommendation to the court as the child is classed as child in need at mo(but pushing towards child protection)
We've been to a few meetings involving all parties. Also had a home visit
Will CAFCASS still be involved or is this the same thing? not sure if its the same thing