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Hi, in court very soon first hearing and waiting 4 1/2 months to this point. My ex says I have aggression towards kis no proof clean with all authority's. 

Cafcas just recommended normal checks. She has a none proof, contested non mol on me.

All I want to do is see the kids I've asked for 50 50. I presume the court puts this across she will say no what's likely to happen then? My brief is asking for contact. She said to csfcas and the court report she is happy for me to see the kids under supervision of grandparents she has since said to grandparents that's not happening! So told cafcass and court one thing wants to do another.

I just want some guidance of what the court are likely to set up for me regards contact as that is the aim. I was under impression the court sorted all that out on the day otherwise what's the point in going.

 

Thanks 

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They won't put a contact order in straight away, you will have numerous hearing and numerous investigations months apart from each other before you can even discuss a contact proposal. In the meantime in the first hearing make sure you ask for Interim contact, incredibly important. Interim contact is contact that take place between now and the final hearing of the child contact order. If you have Interim contact order in place now it will cut out the pain and dehumanising experience of a contact centre, can't stress enough how important it is to ask for Interim contact inthe first hearing.

The first hearing is not about contact. It's about you as a person and how you come across, if you show any kind of emotion, you are the devil. If you don't show enough emotion, you're a robot that doesn't care. They will either do a Cafcass section 7 report that takes 16 weeks minimum or they will set a new hearing for 12 weeks from the date of your first hearing to discuss any facts that you or she has raised as a problem.

50/50 is not what it sounds like. It's actually 1 day a week overnight every week and every other weekend Friday to Sunday. That's not 50/50 but in the eyes of the courts it is, it's wrong but it is.

Expect to come away from the first hearing upset, angry full of frustration because they didn't listen to you and she got everything she wanted and try are just delaying contact because she's lied and they've believed her, it's normal for that to happen. Remember why you're there, you're there for your child and not her, don even mention her. Every single word that comes out of your mouth should be about your child. 

It's hard, very hard but remember why you're there.

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hi,

so cafcass have had a phone call with you and given you a safeguarding letter? if so what did the letter advise the courts to do? by all means ask for 50/50, and you never know, you may get it. be careful with allegations and do not be tempted to fire allegations back at your ex. this may lead to court/cafcass asking for a fact finding hearing. if thats ordered, it will drag your court process on for few more months. try to avoid that. keep it 100% child focused. also you may need to start thinking about your work and flexibility. if you tell court/cafcass your work commitments are very important and can not do school runs, they may just only give you every other weekend, fri-sun.

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hi,

so cafcass have had a phone call with you and given you a safeguarding letter? if so what did the letter advise the courts to do? by all means ask for 50/50, and you never know, you may get it. be careful with allegations and do not be tempted to fire allegations back at your ex. this may lead to court/cafcass asking for a fact finding hearing. if thats ordered, it will drag your court process on for few more months. try to avoid that. keep it 100% child focused. also you may need to start thinking about your work and flexibility. if you tell court/cafcass your work commitments are very important and can not do school runs, they may just only give you every other weekend, fri-sun.

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Complete Safeguarding 

The court should have sight of of the Non mol proceedings including statements 

The court may benefit from a letter from child's school and gp as she has a behaviour condition to support any additional needs

Following receipt of the above the court will be better placed to determine next steps including if any welfare reports are required

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ok, it may speed things up if you can get school/GP to write letters and you can pass onto cafcass/court. if you explain how you are fully capable to meet childs needs and special needs, then that should help your case.

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I just want contact any contact to begin with. Will the court give this interim order? How do they work? I just need some hope

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