[Solved] Fathers 4 Justice Legal Advice

I haven't heard of this service, but what I will say is that the very name F4J may not be viewed favourably in the eyes of the establishment, it seen as the extremist arm of campaigners for father's rights. As far as I'm aware, F4J doesn't have support services for Dads - it's a campaign group whose membership is focussed on its campaigns.

They definitely have the service because they advertise it on their site! They recommend not mentioning that you are using them if you do however.

Are you aware of any similar 'non legal' legal advice channels that people can through? We are all aware of the shortcomings of the family court system and that solicitors and barristers are part of this given the exorbitant fees they charge for no demonstrable change in outcome even when the problem is obvious to the person on the street.

Many thanks for any advice.

There are many good McKenzie Friends that can offer the same service.... there are some not so good ones too, as they're an unregulated body... so it's best to get recommendations from others before looking for one to help with a case.

I would imagine the service offered by F4J is given by Dads that are F4J members, have been through the system themselves and have decided to assist others. There's a lot of bitterness with some of these guys, that could be translated into the wrong advice at a time when emotions need to be kept firmly in check.

Just my opinion.

I agree - and the fact that they are suggesting themselves that you don't mention you are using them means that the courts won't take too kindly. As well as MF mentioned above, you could try https://www.childrenslegalcentre.com

I’ve noticed there are no visible costs for the services on offer on their website... a lack of transparency perhaps? If as they state, that they charge a fraction of a solicitors fees, they would surely want to show that openly and not keep it hidden? Just a thought...

Thanks for your brilliant advice - I had solely though McKenzie Friends were just a term given if you brought 'a friend' into court (my ex used her sister as one once) - I didn't realise they are an actual organisation.

Your thoughts on F4J are very valid too.

My experience so far has taught me that established legal people operate in an abysmal system they contribute to, that they are given an essential monopoly which raises costs and that judges resent said people.

Hence I am looking at alternative routes given that my ex has, entirely predictably, largely stopped contact (i.e. the position so many find themselves in).

Thanks for this - this is a great resource also!

In regards to the F4J, i signed up a couple of years ago to their private forums, think it was about £35 or £40/yr if i recall.

I'll be honest i got as much from Dad.info forum at the time and for free.

When i find Dad.info forum struggling to help due to the stage my fight is at i find the Families Need Fathers forum (£35 or £40/yr) helps for some things i need answers to.

A good MacKenzie friend would be my personal choice if funds allow.

FNF just seem to be loads of MacKenzie's touting for work.

Are the F4J forums busy?

Seperated Dads has the volume, but you cannot currently register for it.

Most of my help has come from here so far 🙂

Thanks for that, we do our best to answer all posts as quickly as we can... which we think is important.

FNF has a lot of good information on its website and the meetings are a god send for many, but I agree with you about the FNF forum, without naming names, a couple of the admins on the forum, who are also MFs, dont have a very good reputation, but there are also some really good MFs that are on their list.

I wasn’t aware that the Separated Dads forum isn’t taking new members either, which is a pity, as support for Dads is so thin on the ground as it is.

No, the F4J boards aren't busy. This forum is excellent IMO, the resources are amazing and the advice is great. The pinned threads here are all excellent.