[Solved] DVPP Course

hi,

here is some useful info

http://www.thecustodyminefield.com/flapp/download/dvpp_questions_and_answers_finalv02.pdf

Thanks Bill - I had seen this before, it is very open ended.

I thought that Someone on this forum would have attended the course and would give an insight as too what happened after the course finished or someone would be half way through the course.

NK

Have you used the search bar at the top of the page NK? You might find some past posts about the course.

Hi Mojo

yes have searched and only found 1 member who has been on the course and he does not say if the course was successful or that it helped with contact.

I have no experience of the DVPP course however in the early stages of my battle my ex's legal team suggested that I should do one due to my alleged anger issues towards her.
at the time I was using a solicitor who tried to suggest to me that if I did do the course it would give her one less thing to argue about stopping contact over. I refused that advice and instead suggested that the only alleged anger I had was in fact frustration at the ex stopping contact as and when she wanted and the courts not being tough enough on her to prevent her from keep stopping contact as and when she felt like!

I won that argument in court by proving I had not bee threatening or violent or risk and therefore it was unwarranted and would cause just more delay for the sake of it.

If it's warranted that he needs to do it then do it and then it's one less thing she can argue about....if it's not then fight it, if it's deemed needed then suggest that she also be made to do the course!

hi all

Not sure if that help but I personaly was asked to do the course based on false allegation that 2 times has been judge no finding. Anyhow this is a strategy as if you go on the course legaly you admit that you are a violent or potential threat and it is see for cafcass as admition of guilt.
And at anytime they come came and can said you didnt learn from it if your ex come back with any further allegation. Unless you have had a fact finding that prove guilt , stay strong and said you are not a perpetrator and no finding as been made and you are not suitable! they will push you during the assesment big time as for the course its £100's of funding for you.
Be careful and speaking to many guys that done the course, you are monitor constantly and your result are shared with your ex but also if you have a partner she also will be contacted and given advise to stay away for some time and even money for that.
Furthermore in the program it is also of welfare concern that for the first 2 month you should not have unsupervised or suported contact with your kids but only supervised with note.

Now if you have been proven violent (fact finding) go on the course take note be studious make sure you approve even if stuff are very OTT as this is the only way forward and the judge will likely stop oany CAO until completion and cafcass will ask to review after course finish and evaluttion and very likely it will take some time for unsupervised contact but will get there after course, 6month of centre, 3 month of suported, 3 month of cumunity contact then things should be ok if your ex doesnt object.

Good luck

The courts found all facts in FF to be true and was told if he did not accept the findings he would not be accepted on the course and would not see his son again, hence the admitting to findings and acceptance on the course. He did try to fight his case, as the allegations were mostly false (they had been twisted and ramped up) but he is very young and was very overwhelmed in court without any legal counsel.

I was hoping that as he is halfway through the course, he might be offered some form of contact, as he has not seen or spoken to his son for over 18 months. Indirect contact is not working, as cards and gifts are either not given to his son or he is not told who the gifts are from. The judge ordered that the EX should encourage the child to respond..but this has not happened.

I'm in the same boat regarding indirect contact....it does not work unless the other parent is promoting the indirect contact and as we all know...no one is going to stand over them and watch that they promote it!

crapcass are exactly that...cr*p! they have no clue when it comes to preventing emotional harm happening to our children due to ex's who have no intention of doing the right thing by our kids!

My current situation is...indirect contact has been going on every fortnight and monthly recently for several years....never had a letter or email or card or photo from my child in all that time.
crapcass officer has admitted PA is at play but has no idea how to stop it as in their words "we cannot stop her without the courts help" and the court will only go on crapcass's reporting which bases itself on a child suffering emotional harm by PA by the mother but due to childs current alleged wishes and feelings they cannot force contact in any shape or form because she will undo any good work as soon as child is with her again!

The system stinks!

I completely agree with the Term Crapcass.

The officer visited my grandson with his mother present and completed a computer excerise were the child puts people in houses. first house Happy House - he put his mum, her partner and his New Sibling Second home people who make him Safe - he put his other nanny, grandad. The third House (Sad) my grandson put people but did not name them and said he just didnt want it to be empty.

Cafcass offices reports he did not put his father or fathers parents in any of the boxes and did not mention them, so I did not ask him any direct questions about them and did not want to cause any uncertainty??

The whole thing is a complete shambles, how can you find out the feelings of a child about his father if you do not ask him about his father..!! The child did not know it was a meeting about his dad, he is only 5... so why would he mention him, and if no one else mentions the dad, its reported that the Child Didn't speak about him... and goes against the dad.

Hi all,

What I can say is get strong good advise l!
Always be a step ahead. Don’t think she will do you any favour. Just read mums net and so on. You will see they get all the sympathy in the world to stop contact.
My advise
Get to court ask to be promoted to tiers 2 judge due to complexity and no advancement in contact.
Ask to move to supported contact.
Then also ask for a guardian! Big big important.
A guardian is appointed by the court and is independent for cafcass and social service and will work with both parent and are experienced social worker.
They have 6 month to find and resolve to a positif outcome and it can’t be of no contact.
Push man always
Now best advise I can give you.
Go to family bees fathers meeting it’s free and full of guys that have been there. Listen to their story and they speak of experience and have been through harder and learn how to fight alone or small budget.
Get to know why you are against, but remain always focus on the child and show always that you. Can do anything and accommodate your child life’s.

Fight as hard has you can!