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Court today. Emotionally drained.
What have I learnt?
Don't back down. Don't allow the other side to beat you down with your vulnerability, stand your ground. Recognise when they try to do this, stand your ground.
We finally got the section 7.
I felt it was rushed, didn't highlight my cornerback and generally was sat on the fence.
Social services recommended te status quo, one with him, two with me and alternate weekends.
Now, in theory this would have been the easiest thing to do, I probably would have looked to be being reasonable and moving forward in te courts eyes and I felt a little like I was in fact being awkward , however, we've done the "recommended" for the last two years, it didn't work! He was inconsistent, volatile , erratic and abusive, emotionally. We'd be back to square one. Point?
So I stuck to my guns, before the hearing his barrister approached me, tried to grind me down with some [censored] about the section 7 not answering questions needed for the court ad should I contest another report would be needed, scare tactics!
"Fine " I said, let's get another report, the safety and well being of my children is paramount, unless I'm 100% certain of that, I will not be agreeing to the proposal......YES! I've said it!
So we go into court and the barrister bangs on about costs and how much this is costing his client and how it needs to be ended today. Again, I contest.
We break for more discussions......same old, I speak with SW and tell her my feeling on the report.....I'm doing this, I'm not backing down!!
Back to court....I get my contested hearing!!!!
I have 2 weeks to submit my statement.
In te meantime he's told in no uncertain terms that should the eldest not with to attend contact at mine, he MUST maintain contact with the younger two....this is not a game.
And breathe.....least for tonight.
Wine, I need wine!
What's annoyed me is that my PS was completely dismissed, even the fact my 10 yr old had confessed to smoking cannabis whilst in his dads care, that they were out till 10pm, dismissed completely, nothing mentioned about mediation or the SPIP course. Nothing about his drug use or mental health past.
Getting there though, feeling accomplished today.
Any advise on the contested would be massively appreciated.
Massive thanks to all of you so far for your kind words, help advice and just general hand holds!
Xxx
Well done you for getting through today.
Were you LIP or represented?
Regards,
Dave
Hi Dave
I was LIP with a MF by my side. Kept me going, had he not been there I'd have crumbled without a doubt. I recognised immediately what the barrister was trying to do! I'm so proud of myself.
Even managed to hold in my emotions.
Barrister at the end annoyed me, bobbed his head in the door and told me to arrange my own contact with the eldest since he was so undecided about coming. Really? Arrange it myself with a 12 yr old?! Pathetic!!!
It is just a game for solicitors and barristers. I dont hold a high opinion of them and hope that my formers partners barrister finds themselves on a sticky wicket one day with theyre kids. Might teach them a lesson.
With regards to cannabis, it seems that the courts dont care who does it as my former failed her drugs test but still got residency. Her and her barrister were annoyed when I told them last week and a financial hearing that I was submitting another c100. Who knows where that will end up....
Get that wine glass out and chill....:)
Regards,
Dave
That's it. It was all about the money to them.
I don't want my 10 yr old growing up smoking cannabis!!
My mum said he nearly took the wall out when he stormed out of court.
I have to submit a statement in 14 days, ex has 21.
If I'm contesting the decision , what will his statement have to be about?
Haha well done you'll be even more confident in the contested hearing, give that solicitor some serious * I can't stand any of them jumped up scum ball money grabbing worthless pieces of * like I said before they should all be banned from the family courts they are the lowest of the low, I half wished my ex was represented so I could of had a go at one, keep going crocs and hit your ex in the pocket too drag it out for as long as poss 🙂
I can't believe the deal the courts made about me smoking cannabis even though I gave up way before I started court proceeding they still requested a drug test at every hearing it was seen just as bad as crack for them and one of the reasons they kept testing me was because I DJ'ed in Ibiza and my ex considered Ibiza to be the drug capitol of the world, at the end of the day I could of been necking Pills, coke, Mdma, ket, speed what ever I wanted and they would be none the wiser (I never by the way been there done that).
You sound loads more confident now crocs good on you 🙂
Thanks Slim.
I feel like I've been a bit awkward to be fair, but then this is my kids lives at stake and if I'm not 110% then I ain't doing it!
We had magistrates, I was warned they were a little less knowledgeable and lapsy daisy, but seriously, if you read a 10 yr was smoking weed!!
I have 6 weeks to the next hearing, not sure if that's good or bad, good cause it's soon, bad because it doesn't really give him enough time to trip himself up.
The section 7 was all "yes sir, certainly I'll comply with that" but we know it's a matter of time before he gets bored. I'd like to give him te benefit of the doubt, but really, he doesn't even deserve that!!!
My step dad offered me a spliff on holiday when I was 12! I carried on smoking that [censored] up until a year ago, people consider cannabis to be a non serious drug but it's one of the worst so you are right to be worried, you can't see the harm it does whilst your smoking it I'm a completely different person now I've gave it up it ended up costing me £500 a month towards the end.
It sounds like them magistrates were right limp wristed goons the set of them I had in my first hearing didn't have a clue what day it was :/
Can I request new ones? I got the impression it would be the same? I thought one of them was dead, she looked about 90, dug up an was literally yawning slumped in her chair!! Very unprofessional!
What's more, the SW hadn't manage to speak to the eldest, he refused so she left him some questions to complete, now, why would she leave them? Why wouldn't she wait till he completed him, ALONE! Whose to say he hast sat with dad over his shoulder promising him a new puppy if he wrote what he was told?!
Crocs,
Firstly well done. I hope you enjoyed that glass of wine - you deserved it 🙂
My case was requested to be in front of county / district court. I forget the correct term sorry. Effectively this meant in front of a judge not magistrates ( that my solicitor was very derogatory of). Perhaps somebody here knows how to request that - or you can ask the court?
I'm not sure why my case had this? Apparently my case was very complicated. Though for me simple - my ex stopping contact because she could.
Anyway I hope that helps and best of luck.
MH
Thanks MH
Did you request these judges yourself?
I don't understand why you have a district judge at your first hearing and then when it starts to get serious they stick people in who clearly don't care!
If have thought with them being a little older and wiser they'd see the seriousness of te case. The drug use, mental health, use if knives in his past has just been brushed aside.
Had the SW put in the section 7 my concerns for the 10 yr old smoking cannabis, I imagine it may have been taken a little more seriously.
Court also asked for a parental assistance order.
I've googled this as it looks like someone's coming out to "befriend" me in the hope to change my mind!! Not happening.
Hi Crocs,
Well done for standing your ground it feels great when you do and they take notice.
When my case was going through the judge was really difficult, she seemed as though she was looking for the easy way out rather than making an order that would go aggainst either of us, my ex made out to the judge that the only reason I wanted weekend contact was so that my CSA payments would be reduced, at that coment the judge asked me if I would consider not informing CSA of the change and leaving the payments as they were to clear my ex's doubts that, that was the reason. I replied very calmly, that actually not only would that be against the CSA regulations not to inform them of a change of circumstance, but that also contact and finacial matters (CSA) were different battles and it was my understanding that they should never be discussed in the same court room especially as a bargianing tool to allow for more contact. I could see the judge take a deep breath, then she gave me a slight smile and told my ex weekend contact would be set. It felt great to stand up and push back.
Well done the wine is well deserved, now to get ready to go back. I'm sure Mojo can give better advice than me on what you need for the next part, so send her a message.
GTTS
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