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Hi Guys,
After the directions hearing I was wondering what happens next?
Will I get confirmation from the court about the next hearing and what needs to be done for the next hearing and will that be by post?
The court said we have to attend a spips course will the court inform us of that too?
I've been asked to complete a hair strand test do I take the results with me to court or do I send them to all parties involved as well as the court before the next hearing.
I've been asked to supply a letter from my doctor to say Ive received help from him and been prescribed medicine ect for me giving up cannabis to help with the withdrawal effects do I send that to the court and everyone involved before the next hearing?
Cafcass have been directed to complete a section 7 report what and when will I hear from them?
What is involved in a section 7 report?
will I get the same judge all the way through the case or do they chop and change?
I had to take that much in and it was such a whirl I forgot to ask all this there and then and as we were in court for so long they were trying to get it over as quick as poss.
many thanks in advance π
...you will get get confirmation from the court about the directions that were made at the first hearing, with a date and time...and yes it will be posted to you.
I'm not sure about the spips course, you could give CAFCASS a call, I think they might be the ones to sort this out, if not they should be able to tell you how to go about it. You could ask them for a timeframe for the interview for the section 7 and also about having an observational visit with your daughters.
A section 7 report is a report that covers background, past history, any convictions or local authority involvement and will highlight any concerns. Depending on the ages of the children they should try and ascertain their wishes and feelings and talk to anyone else closely involved with the children such as school and possibly nursery. If the children are quite young it's important that they arrange a contact session between you and the girls to observe how you are with them and they with you. They will make recommendations based on their findings.
Hopefully you will get the same judge, sometimes the judge will order that all further hearings be listed with them and they would usually order this during the hearing. They do chop and change though, my son has had three different judges, all with a different approach, it's quite frustrating! I thin continuity is important in family proceedings but what do I know!
Next time Slim, take a pad and pen in with you and take notes!
...I forgot to answer your question about the drug test results, file them with the court and send a copy to the other party, or their solicitor if they have one, with a covering letter. Anything you file with the court, you should also send a copy to the other party. Any letters you send to the other party also file a copy with the court, all parties should have a copy of all documents. Always remember to include the case number and name of both parties on any paperwork.
You can do the same with the GPs letter, and send with a covering letter.
Haha! I've just dug out my notes I forgot I wrote everything down during the hearing with all the hullaballoo!!
Many thanks NJ I was mainly concerned about this Section 7 but you've already answered all my questions on that one, My ex made various false accusations to the police and called them out twice but they didn't even contact me so I don't think I've got anything to worry about there.
Now because I reported my ex to social services 3 times they conducted their investigations and said they have closed the case saying my ex is a drinker but she doesn't let it affect her parenting and i was made out to be an annoyance to them in the section 2 report!
I reported her because I seen her punch, slap, kick and throw my daughters sister across the room 6 or 7 times when she was drunk whilst I was staying over there around xmas time, in the directions hearing cafcass said my ex had admitted to drinking every night but only drank when the kids were in bed and they all were about to accept that and move on before I piped in and mentioned she had attended AA.
This shocked the sh*t out of them all and the court requested cafcass look into her drinking more.
I put all these concerns down on my application and the drink is the only reason why my ex is behaving the way she is the drink took the loving warm caring girl who wouldnt say boo to a goose to me about 3 years ago which is why I finished the relationship in the first place.
It worries me sick that still no one believes me and I think the SS reports are sub standard as they didn't even pick up on my daughters apparent lung condition which i cant find out about as my ex has sent me a letter threatening prosecution for harassment if I contact her as suggested by police they also never picked upon my daughters bleeding because of her nappy rash (she is incontinent)
How can I push for my ex to get help with her drinking without seeming like the controlling ex like I've been made out to been all along?
I hope I get the same judge as he's male and totally sound every women I've delt with is totally biased.
Is there anyway I can find out about my daughters lung condition as my ex is using it as a weapon against me to I'm so worried as I know the house is a state she smokes indoors and in the car which can't be doing the girl no good at all?
Do you know the name of the judge ?
If so call the court and ask them to check the diary and see who the next hearing is assigned too, you could then say about the continuity of keeping the same judge,
fingers cross,
for me I have been told I have 3 magistrates and legal advisor ....still amazed to have final hearing without having a directions but have the order and called to check and it's all booked In,
we don't have a section7 only a s47 from when my ex was reported by my son for hurting him he reported to school counsellor she was investigated while children placed with me then 2 weeks later she demanded them back as she was 'cleared' as children couldn't remember when and didn't give much detail to a stranger they had just met with their mother present ... I have never been met by SS or observed with the children yet they are using this report π however I have complained to SS and sent my complaint to the court and have requested a reply before court date and will take that with me ,
SS have been requested to attend our hearing,
I would definitely address your concerns about your daughters health but maybe to SS when they start doing the report etc, or you could write a letter to your ex and say of your concerns could she seek advise treatment,
I am down as being a controlling parent and told my standards are just too high she meets their basic needs that's all they are concerned with so it's very difficult, I don't see why the children have to put up with basic parenting when they have the option not too,
sorry took over your thread here with rambling !
I was mainly trying to say that SS have done reports on my ex and found no concerns and have accused me of been a time waster I wanted to know how I can push for my ex's drinking to get sorted and for her to get help.
My other concern was I want to find out about my daughters lung condition as my ex is using it as a weapon against me i've been told she has a breathing canister.
The SS didn't pick up on my daughters lung problem and her sisters bleeding down below because of her incontinence which was worrying.
Also I've witnessed my ex punching, kicking, slapping and throwing my daughters sister across the room and none of this has been addressed yet in court and I put it all over the applications they wee more concerned about the false allegations of mine which the court threw out.
as i said earlier they were all about to accept the drinking as she admitted to drinking every night I couldn't believe my ears then I said she attended AA and the court requested cafcass looked into her drink in more depth so what will they do? My ex went from 2-3 bottles of wine a day to a bottle of vodka a day I was shocked in court as she looked like a alcoholic its obvious they all seem blind!
It's a sad inditement of the system that they gloss over neglect and seem to have very low parameters for what they consider neglect is....my sons ex has been investigated for physical abuse of her daughter (my grandsons half sister) which has been witnessed by my son, myself and my grandson and reported by the little girls school....but they won't take it on board, and still keep stating in reports that there's no evidence of physical abuse.
She tested positive for cocaine and police knew she was selling it from her house, she has also just been given a suspended sentence for cultivation of 34 plants in my grandsons bedroom (the one he used to use when he stayed at the weekend) and her boyfriend is a MAPPA category 2 violent offender with 54 convictions for drugs, violence, theft, kidnap and arson to name a few! He's just got out of prison and is the main reason we are back in court...trying to protect our boy. The court however have a different outlook and at the last hearing in March ordered that contact between my grandson and the mother had to be resumed. This man, her boyfriend isn't allowed to see his own child ever but they are discussing allowing him to have contact with ours!
Sorry for ranting, I just want you to be aware that the things we see as totally unacceptable can be more or less disregarded. Because the courts are closed and private (their word for secret!) whatever goes on behind the closed doors of the court cannot be spoken of to anyone, people are in prison because they have spoken out about the injustice that goes on in these courts!
As far as your daughters medical condition you have the right to be kept up to date with any medical issues. If you know her GP then you can request that they allow you to be a party to her medical records. You have to prove that you have PR so they would need to see a copy of her birth certificate as you are named on that. Alternatively you can bring this up in court and request that anything to do with her health, schooling and religion must be disclosed to you and for you to be party to any decisions made in these areas.
Is she having a liver function test? There's not much they can do, those tests can come back normal when they're bang at it!
Hopefully she will back off with the drinking and physical abuse of you step daughter now it's out in the open.
My god that is absolutely unbelievable NJ you must be forever at your wits end!
Im not sure if she's having a liver test because it was right at the end of the hearing that I came out with she'd been to AA and the cafcass woman was shocked to [censored] the court directed them to look into it more so we will see what happens
I think you may be right about her thinking twice about abusing my step daughter.
I was beside myself for a good few days after the hearing in March...this case has been ongoing for the past 15 months and because the boyfriend came out of prison in February we are now right back at the beginning again as she lied to the court and continually told them she wasn't in a relationship with him, they believed her of course! Then out of the blue in February she declared that he was moving in with her on his release and they had been together for 18 months....the court had been telling her that if she was found to be lying about not being in a relationship with him there would be serious consequences...at the hearing in march my son asked, as she has been found to be lying and exposing the children to this man knowing his history, what the serious consequences are...they shrugged their shoulders....guess what there aren't any!
I'm sane and functioning through all of this because I step outside it and try and view it dispassionately, by separating out the emotional side of it....to succeed its essential to do this. Plus it really helps me to come here and help others, your successes are my successes!
My son has had custody of his son since May 2011, then he was a pale, quiet little boy of 4 with sad eyes, dulled by neglect...he's just had his 7th birthday and he's now a bright, happy, sociable little boy and his eyes are bright and shiny! He's a joy to be with and so loving, we are blessed.
His poor sister isn't so lucky, she is now on the child protection register for being emotionally abused.... I just don't understand how they can leave her in such a bad environment...it's terribly sad.
That is beyond belief - what are the courts thinking!! π‘
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