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[Solved] Daughter supposedly refusing to see me.

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 Yoda
(@yoda)
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Hi

Yes, you will need to take a position statement with you on the day unless the court asks for one earlier.

If you get magistrates, I would suggest putting in your ps that due to the history of coaching and previous proceedings, that you believe the matter will need to be raised to Tier 2.

If the court want to order a Section 7 report, perhaps ask them to give consideration to appointing a guardian so that your child is represented in court.

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Posted : 28/06/2019 10:56 am
(@Villarkita)
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Hi

Yes, you will need to take a position statement with you on the day unless the court asks for one earlier.

If you get magistrates, I would suggest putting in your ps that due to the history of coaching and previous proceedings, that you believe the matter will need to be raised to Tier 2.

If the court want to order a Section 7 report, perhaps ask them to give consideration to appointing a guardian so that your child is represented in court.

Thanks for the post.

A quick update.

I managed to get back on the school system by pointing out to the head it’s his responsibility to make sure my details are on the school register.
I also got the latest school report and her attendance is 90%!

A little disappointed as they had two weeks after allegations were made to coach her as it was half term and also the week after absent from school.

Police and SS both spoke to her but as yet no interview as yet, so another 2-3 have elapsed since that with leaves even more time to be coached.

Some good news though! I’ve spoken to cafcass and they seem to be onboard and have a number of concerns and want everything to be looked at not just the false allegations, the lady even mentioned PA...

So my plan of action is to write a PS and add a brief history with timeline.

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Topic starter Posted : 01/07/2019 5:32 am
 Yoda
(@yoda)
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Keep your PS brief - 1 to 2 pages max and don't attach evidence yet as you won't have permission.

The court will more than likely give you directions on providing a full statement as the proceedings progress and you will have an opportunity to put everything in to that.

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Posted : 01/07/2019 10:03 pm
(@Villarkita)
Eminent Member Registered

So I got my safeguarding letter today, don’t really know what to think of it really!

Cafcass are recommending a section 7 report.

Social services are already doing a section 47 that nobody has made me aware of or wanted my input, I’m not sure how that should have worked but I’m going to call the FRG tomorrow and find out.

It doesn’t look like I’m going to be having any contact anytime soon.

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Topic starter Posted : 12/07/2019 2:55 am
 Mojo
(@Mojo)
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As far as I know, thats quite a serious safeguarding assessment. Did you speak to the people at FRG?

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Posted : 12/07/2019 5:34 pm
(@Villarkita)
Eminent Member Registered

I have and they and they explained it all to me. I am quite concerned about it as so far nobody from social services have spoken to me regarding this or put the allegations to me to respond to.

As this is due to be completed in 2 weeks it does make me extremely worried. The allegations are of a physical and emotional/mental nature but that’s all I have to go on so far.

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Topic starter Posted : 12/07/2019 6:45 pm
 Mojo
(@Mojo)
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Did the FRG advise you about getting included in the process of the S47?

It must be an extremely upsetting time for you and your family, hopefully you will learn more once the reports are in and the case is properly underway.

All the best

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Posted : 12/07/2019 10:10 pm
(@Villarkita)
Eminent Member Registered

Yes, she stated they have a set amount of time to complete it.

As the police haven’t spoken to me I don’t see how they can finish it in this time.

I’ve read the safeguarding letter again and it does seem a little better reading it a second time. I must admit everything on the ex side is all fabrication . Thanks for all the advice it’s always nice to get the opinion and advice of others who see it from a different angle.

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Topic starter Posted : 12/07/2019 10:18 pm
 Mojo
(@Mojo)
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You’re welcome Villarkita... yes, we do tend to take reports very personally, I’m glad you were able to read it and gain a little more perspective.

All the best

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Posted : 13/07/2019 11:26 pm
(@Villarkita)
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So I was at court today and received a position statement with yet more lies and allegations in that hadn’t happened, funny really though as I can disprove a few of these ones.

It was ordered that a section 7 should be completed and the courts also ordered that the section 47 and the initial social services reports be provided to the courts. I won’t be back at court for over 3 months and next time it’s going to be in front of a district judge.

I have yet to hear from the social worker despite me leaving her a message but I’m due to give a voluntary interview to the police shortly.

I must admit I’m worried about the section 47 as the social worker hasn’t spoken to me about any of it and it’s due to be completed shortly.

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Topic starter Posted : 19/07/2019 11:50 pm
(@Villarkita)
Eminent Member Registered

Well it would seem I am well and truly done here.

I got the s7 a last month and it’s all negative, all the background supplied by mum! I was spoken to last minute a week before the report was due to be filed at the court! S7 done by the same social worker who has done the social care assessment and the s47, both of which she has done without me and hasn’t sent me any copies of. The s7 states no contact at all.

Went to court last month and it’s been scheduled for a final hearing. The judge said I should be giving some indirect contact.

So we swapped statements recently and the ex wants the judge to order all indirect contact goes through a third party (her mother) and that they get to read the letters first! Now what use is indirect contact if the people alienating my daughter against me are the ones receiving the letter? Obviously I’m not accepting this, if a 3rd party should be receiving the letter it’s got to be someone impartial and someone not emotionally involved! Also why should my ex or her mother be reading a private letter between me and my daughter? In effect it’s them still controlling what little contact would remain. My daughter is not in prison so why should her mail be intercepted?

Not far off giving up, it’s a sad thing to say but my poor daughter is the one who’s suffering and who’s going to continue to suffer with a life time with them.

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Topic starter Posted : 02/11/2019 2:49 am
(@dadmod2)
Illustrious Member

hi,

im very sorry to hear that the s7 report was negative. so basically you are supposed to only sent letters to her for foreseeable future? i hope you are represented at final hearing and try fight this. i had to drop phone contact from s7 report recommendation. ex said if i want to call them i should provide a phone lol. i am not going to be made to feel like a prisoner, with my 15 min phone call with my kids. i am not giving that silly woman more control like that.

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Posted : 02/11/2019 3:05 am
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