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(@Mom24)
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She is Defiantly Being obstructive..14mnths with only a 45 minute contact in a contact centre ( which there was no need for but was the only thing on offer) She asked my Son to drop the Court case when he refused she picked up My Grandson and walked out and had no further contact. The centre contacted her to advise there were 2 more visits arranged via the Courts she point blank told them she would not attend any more and that is the last contact the courts had with her.

She has remarried and there is another baby..We feel she has wrote My Son out of His sons Life.

He sent maintenance via cheque recorded ( all signed for) none cashed. She then contacted the CSA they set up a Payment arrangement..before 1st payment was called r fo my Son had a letter to say the Mother had Cancelled the Arrangement...
My son will fight every step of the way to make sure his Son has a Relationship with His Daddy...if he has to go to every news paper and show them how this Mother is A classic Catherine Tate..he is willing to do it

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Topic starter Posted : 07/07/2014 7:13 pm
(@Kirsten)
Reputable Member Registered

Some woman don't deserve to be called " mother .
I don't know how old your grandson is but I do feel for you. As a grandparent you are hit
twice over.
My grandchilds mother told the court mediator point blank that she doesn't want her child to
have any contact with my son....the mediator didn't even say anything to her and asked my son
to make even more concessions as otherwise contact might not take place.
I am still so incensed with the so-called mediator and the fact that the " mother " is calling
the shots....

Keep fighting
Kirsten

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Posted : 07/07/2014 9:38 pm
(@Mom24)
Estimable Member Registered

He is 4..

We have the other side where as in she says nothing because she just does not acknowledge any correspondence form the Courts.

We are hoping that she is slowly tightening her own rope as the courts deal with it in her absence now...as the Legal Advisor pointed out to the bench 2 hearings since her reprehensible behaviour speaks volumes.

We have got to the stage now where we hope she does not show up as she is like i said hanging herself...

Karma is a Wonderful thing..where as it might not be easy now..We now that the time will come When My Grandson will ask" Daddy why did you not see my for a time?"..Its all in Black and White..She will have a lot to answer to...xx

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Topic starter Posted : 07/07/2014 9:48 pm
(@dadmod4)
Illustrious Member

Put all of the maintenance that is being refused into a savings account - some day in the future, your son is going to be able to tell (and prove to) your grandson that he was contributing but his mother was refusing - and also your grandson will have a nice nest egg to help him through university or help him buy a house/car etc.

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Posted : 09/07/2014 11:05 pm
(@dad-i-d)
Noble Member Registered

Put all of the maintenance that is being refused into a savings account - some day in the future, your son is going to be able to tell (and prove to) your grandson that he was contributing but his mother was refusing - and also your grandson will have a nice nest egg to help him through university or help him buy a house/car etc.

As Actd Says put it to a savings account and don’t be tempted to touch it…..if she one day decides to go through the CSA or whatever agency it is at the time to get maintenance from you then it’ll be there to soften the blow of their demands for back pay!

Just because she doesn't want your money now doesn't mean she'll not come looking for it later on!

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Posted : 10/07/2014 2:05 pm
(@Mom24)
Estimable Member Registered

She went through CSA ...Payment plan was set up...She then cancelled it...sometimes we wonder if everything is as it should be in her Head
None of her actions have ever been consistent..

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Topic starter Posted : 10/07/2014 3:00 pm
(@Mom24)
Estimable Member Registered

Afternoon All

Well Enforcement day in court been and gone..

Surprise surprise the ex turned up...She stated her reasons for not abiding by the court order where she had moved address and not received any mail in connection with the court hearing..Really ?

She want,s to appeal the Enforcement on the ground unaware of proceedings..

She also wants to appeal court order for Contact.

Decision..

She was made aware that Contact Order is still in place ,Even if she appeals as the Decision had already been made via Caff Cass and a Section 7 and it would be the same Professional people who make the next report..

So she now has to abide by Contact Order as she, as the Courts have rightfully pointed out, it now aware and it still stands even if she does appeal..

She tried again to make accessions of threats..(didn't wash)

So as it stands she has to comply with contact order..another court hearing set for 5 weeks to see if enforcement needs to go ahead..

So either way its a step closer, she doesn't comply My Son gets Enforcement granted, if she does comply he see,s his Boy...

x

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Topic starter Posted : 23/07/2014 4:08 pm
(@dadmod4)
Illustrious Member

That sounds like a step closer. 🙂

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Posted : 23/07/2014 11:17 pm
(@Mom24)
Estimable Member Registered

...Here we go again...

despite having been to court in person (finally!) and been advised by the court that the contact order remains in force and must be adhered to - she has once again breached the order by not turning up.

While this makes it easier to get enforcement granted at the hearing in 5 weeks time - she has got to have completely run out of excuses, my son is again having to deal with the fact that he has missed seeing his son yet again.

He has today requested that the police carry out a welfare check on his son, hopefully this will a) set his mind at rest that his son is OK and happy, and b) refute any future excuses along the lines of "I didn't take him to see his father because he was unwell" etc.

I am starting to worry that even if enforcement is granted (and I cant see any reason why it now shouldn't) that it is by no means the end of the road - if she can't see sense at this stage after being warned directly in court of the consequences of breaching the court order - what more is it going to take!

Her excuse (given in court) for breaking the court order was that she had moved and didn't know anything about it - however we can easily prove that was a lie as she gave (in court) her date of moving as November - and yet she emailed the court in January following a court letter in December...

I'm wondering if my son ought to phone the courts on Monday and ask if the next hearing date can be brought forward. The date was set with a mind to allow his ex to demonstrate that she would comply with the order in the time before the next hearing - and as she has once again shown her unwillingness to do so, I wonder if it might be likely to get the date brought sooner - does anyone have any advise on this?

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Topic starter Posted : 27/07/2014 5:10 pm
(@Nannyjane)
Illustrious Member Registered

...it's so hard for your son to be continually denied his son, but D day is coming! These next 5 weeks were her opportunity to show she takes the court seriously....she is already blowing it!

I would put the fact that she didn't turn up for contact in writing so that it is filed with the paperwork and will be seen by the judge. Whether to ask for the hearing to be bought forward, I would say give her a little more rope.....five weeks isn't too long in the bigger picture. You could mention in the letter that if she doesn't make xxxx available for the next scheduled contact that you would like to request that the hearing be bought forward.

If you decide to write, send a copy to her or her solicitor if she has one. This will give her some food for thought and maybe she will realise she needs to facilitate contact.

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Posted : 27/07/2014 5:52 pm
(@Mom24)
Estimable Member Registered

Another twist...

My son has today received a letter from his ex.

She made yet more unsubstantiated allegations that he has threatened her and his son. She says she is not willing to let him have unsupervised contact with him despite the court order, and says that she will raise her concerns at court on the next date, but wont abide by the court order in the meantime.

At the court hearing it was spelled out to her that the order was made by the court, and cafcass and the courts had investigated her allegations and the section 7 report was in favour of contact, and that she MUST abide by the court order.

She seems to believe that she can pull a "poor little me" act and throw around unfounded accusations, and somehow make a court reconsider an order that they have granted just because she doesn't want it!

As she has (yet again) broken the order and put in writing that she is going to continue to break the contact order, I think that he should get in touch with the courts to request an emergency hearing rather than wait another three weeks, as this just seems to be yet another delaying tactic - can anyone advise if this is likely to be granted?

I think it might be a good idea to get a solicitor involved again, and to get a barrister in court to clearly expose her lies and deceptions and show her to the court in her true colours. At the last hearing she tried to sway the court, by pretending to be innocent and threatened and bewildered, which to an extent worked, and got them to extend the benefit of the doubt to amazing levels.

Does anyone know a good family law solicitor (and maybe a good barrister) in the Wolverhampton area?

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Topic starter Posted : 01/08/2014 11:48 pm
(@dadmod4)
Illustrious Member

might be worth giving the court a ring asap to inform them of what has happened and see whether there's any merit in sending the written evidence to the judge.

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