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(@dadmod4)
Illustrious Member

Sorry to hear about this - have you complained about this officially?

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/hm-courts-and-tribunals-service/about/complaints-procedure

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Posted : 25/05/2018 11:18 pm
 Yoda
(@yoda)
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Oh my goodness, this really is a shambles and one of the more extreme cases I've had the displeasure of hearing about. I cannot believe that your hopes are raised and then you are in this position. Sending best wishes and keeping everything crossed for you. Hopefully it will be in your favour and a Guardian will be appointed. This should have been done a very long time ago!

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Posted : 28/05/2018 1:11 pm
(@dad-i-d)
Noble Member Registered

Hi and Thanks

Not complained yet, but trust me once there is some form of resolution good or bad there will be an official complaint going in against the courts.

Doubt that anythign will come of it just liek when i complained officially about CAFCASS's abhorent handling of the case and their lack of continuity in such an extreme case as this has been.

oh and the judgement reading hearing date paperwork has just arrived (couple of weeks time) with a note saying that the draft judgement will be with me hopefully well before the hearing, so i'm expecting it any day now.

Fingers crossed and prayers are being said.

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Topic starter Posted : 29/05/2018 4:31 pm
(@dad-i-d)
Noble Member Registered

Can't disclose any detail but....[censored] she must have had a bad nights sleep.

Judge extremely critical of the ex for the continuing frustration of contact despite court orders ordering contact to resume over the years.
She now has nowhere to hide and help is now coming for (child).

I now need to find a list of psychologists to offer the courts to choose from.

Question: Do I need a specific form to fill in to apply for a psychologist to be involved with my case or will the judge stating it is needed be enough?

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Topic starter Posted : 02/06/2018 5:30 pm
 Mojo
(@Mojo)
Illustrious Member Registered

Well that's a result Dad-i-d... let's hope this is the breakthrough that is needed.

Concerning the psychologist, I would have thought, if it forms part of the orders/directions, that would be enough, but to be honest I'm only surmising... I would certainly start looking for good psychologists though.

Perhaps the court would be able to advise you of the next step regarding this.

Let's hope this is the start of many more sleepless nights for your ex and the start of the journey back to your son.

Best of luck

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Posted : 03/06/2018 3:21 pm
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(@dad-i-d)
Noble Member Registered

Thanks Mojo

Having re-read it the judge is ordering psychological reports.

Done a bit of research and found a couple that I've contacted so we'll see how they pan out.

Also found an interesting post regarding parental alienation and borderline narcissistic parental behaviour.

https://youtu.be/ezBJ3954mKw

It's an American psychologist and the video is long winded, but skip to 31:00 (for how the alienator does it) and 1:20:00 (for recommended treatment) for some quick fixes.

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Topic starter Posted : 03/06/2018 3:34 pm
(@superprouddad)
Reputable Member Registered

Thank you for sharing the video, very good education, still going through the whole thing. He does provide good advice about choosing a psychiatrist around the 61 minute mark.

I have recently had a good recommendation from a senior barrister for Chip Chimera ( http://www.ift.org.uk/about-ift/chip-chimera-director-centre-child-studies/ ), but my case is still some way off from this ( we're going through the 1st enforcement/variation cycle and the magistrates think they can handle it with a family assistance order ).

How old is your child ? I've recently met a father who has 3 kids (9, 14 and 16) and found himself alienated from the 2 older ones. The 16 year old the court completely gave up on because of his age, they are dragging their feet with regards to the 14 year old and the father is anxious that by the time he's in front of a real judge, it will be too late. He did manage to get a 50/50 order with regards to the 9 year old.

I can't imagine how hard this has been for you over the last 8 years, the one thing that talk makes very clear is that this is a child protection issue and your child needs you at this point more than ever. I'm sorry.

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Posted : 03/06/2018 10:52 pm
(@dad-i-d)
Noble Member Registered

My child is not quite a teen (i need to be vague to prevent the ex using this against me)

Looking at the more recent history of my case had i been able to afford legal representation after the finding of fact hearing some years ago now i'm certain it would not have gone on so long. it's only my lack of knowing what to ask the courts to do that has i feel dragged it out this long.
i should have asked for psycholoical reports years ago when (child) was allegedly not wanting to come and that was the reason behind the ex breaking the court orders.
my lack of legal knowledge has certainly hampered my fight.

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Topic starter Posted : 04/06/2018 3:58 pm
(@superprouddad)
Reputable Member Registered

It's not worth ruminating too much over what's past, you need to focus on what's coming, but having said that, I don't think it's your fault at all.

You and your child have been victims of serious abuse. The court has an obligation to serve the best interests of the child, and therefore, an obligation to identify that a case that has been dragging on for years is likely a sign of parental abuse that needs to be dealt with swiftly.

In hindsight you know more than you did when you first started. It's not going to change your reality today, but it helps others going through the same thing, and hopefully, it will help change attitudes and perceptions so that your son will never have to go through this.

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Posted : 04/06/2018 5:05 pm
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(@superprouddad)
Reputable Member Registered

You may have already seen this one, but there’s some more advise on choosing a psychologist:

https://karenwoodall.blog/2018/05/24/making-the-right-decisions-advice-for-rejected-parents-in-the-uk/

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Posted : 06/06/2018 3:28 am
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(@dad-i-d)
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Thanks, I’ve already been in contact with Karen and her team have advised on a suitably qualified person within this field. Unfortunately, the costs I’ve been quoted for this person makes it impossible for me to afford them (£12,500) even sharing the costs 3 ways my share would be over £4000.00
I have three other options all within the £3000-£4500 range but I don’t think any are local enough with the right experience in Parental alienation cases. Certainly no one close enough for post reporting therapy sessions for my (child), unless that can be funded fully or shared by the Children’s guardian?

With regards to Karen, I read a some of Karen’s publications regarding Parental alienation and spoke with her twice regarding my case and my thoughts that this was being employed by my ex on my child. That was back in 2012 and 2013 with the thought of getting her involved in my case if the ex carried on preventing contact at the time. she was very knowledgeable and gave me a few things to think about but the costs at the time meant that i didn’t end up using, i did refer to some of her publications on the subject in my evidence with position statement for application for committal and that was picked up on by the Judge.
At the committal hearing the judge gave my ex a very stern warning that had i applied for committal proceedings with the correct form filled out and based on the evidence and history of the ex stopping contact whenever i applied for more contact, that he would have handed her a 3mth suspended sentence at that hearing.
The ex seemed to get the message and contact from then until 2015 was as per court order but nothing more than was ordered.

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Topic starter Posted : 06/06/2018 12:32 pm
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