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[Solved] Can i remove myself from my kids birth certificate


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I have 2 girls . one and three , i caught my partner cheating last christmas when the kids were younger than they are presently , i reacted violently towards the new partner . i was jailed at the age of 41 . never been nicked before for anything , got a 28 month sentence at Belmarsh HMP , got released on HDC a few weeks ago , also got a restraining order against me , have to go through solicitors to see my girls , not having it . Can i remove myself fron my kids birth certificates as i will never make any effort to see them again !!

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Hi and welcome 🙂

I understand how you must be feeling., you've had a traumatizing experience that will have left some deep scars. As you've only just been released, I would urge you to take some time out and get your life back on track before making any final decisions.

Its very difficult to get removed from a childs birth certificate, and it's a question that's been asked on here before....the Dad that has asked it, has changed his mind a couple of times since....

You dont necessarily need a solicitor to gain access to you girls you know, you can represent yourself. Granted it may take some time and you would probably be required to attend supervised contact at first, but it is doable.

The consequences of walking away from your girls will affect them in the future, not having their Daddy around will pose its own problems for them as they get older. Your ex would most likely be happier for you to walk away, and if anything that would make me more determined to have a good relationship with my children....there are no winners here though.

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Hello there Nannyjane , thanks for the reply , your correct in everything you say , i detest this woman and her family , she lied about my offence , saying my newborn baby who was a few months old was playing on the floor while i was fighting with this guy , a total lie , this guy i found out has Depot injections to treat Schzoprenia , she is bi polar too , jesus i love my girls but i cannot go through any more [censored] . I was in probably the hardest and harshest jail in britain over her , and finally when my first daughter was 6 months old she stopped me from seeing her , blaming post natal depression . i took her through the courts to get access . Now this , and this happened 2 days before xmas , with her saying she no longer wanted to be with me , little did i know she was seeing somebody behind my back !! I need closure , i had children with a monster !!
Its done . she has deprived my daughters of a dad because i have had enough !

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I do feel your pain Mikkey... I just think you should give yourself time to heal before making such life changing decisions. Life changing not just for you, but for your two little girls too.... Dont let your ex deprive you of the love of your children, they need you to fight for them.

My Dad was my world and I cant imagine my life without him having been in it. Theres a lovely lady here whos Dad wasnt around, they were kept apart and it affected her terribly....She found him again though, and they were able to have a lovely relationship until he was sadly taken from her once again... I'm sure she will be along to tell you about it.

Believe me, you might not feel strong enough now, but you will feel better and I hope differently in time. It really does help to talk and we are here to listen. 🙂

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(Thanks Nannyjane !!)

Hi Mikkey, welcome to the forum, you can come on hear and rant away and get great advise. Were you living with your partner when she cheated as you refer to him as her new partner ?
Please do not give up on your girls it will effect them for the rest of there lifes and trust me they need there Daddy. Im sorry you were put in prison it must have been one [censored] of a scrap, take it you won ! Right now you are angry and please take some time out, sort your life out and when you feel calmer think about making plans. If you decide not to see your girls I cant see what difference it would make taking your name off the birth certificates. The birth certificates belong to your daughters and are there so they know where they came from. i love seeing my dads name on mine . You will still have to support your daughters . Are you looking for work. Have you got support from the prison service, a probation officer ? they may be able to help you see your girls your girls cant fight to see you but you can.

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Thank you Nannyjane . yes the pain is horrendous , i was suicidal when i got arrested , i lost everything i was on the floor . Prison made me pull myself together . My true sentence has started now on the out , i never wanted this at all . all i wanted was to be a dad to my kids, this woman has destroyed that , i wouldnt put my worst enemy through what ive gone through . Im full of hate and it isnt good. My own dad has been superb and Belmarsh prison come out with a lot of credit . a lot of prisoners had sympathy for me and some staff alike ... im strong now and i feel i just want to walk away im quite adamant sorry to say . I appreciate your kind words Nannyjane .

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Thank you ak57 . yes i was living with her and yes it was a scrap . the guy lost two thirds of one of his ears . not a proud moment for me .. yes i won the fight but not the battle. Your correct in everything you say and thank you . Furthermore my probation officer has been very supportive concerning seeing my kids . Everybody has its just me and how i feel sorry to say . but im glad i found this site .

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hi im in the same boat been through [censored] with ex and was done for att murder, im gonna get my parental responsibility removed and no contact order, im going to trick ex and apply for court order for contact then when it gets to social service reports and cafcass im just going to threaten them and appear very violent, that will get a no contact order then i will say im very stressed and fear mental illness and will be very violent if pr is not removed, it should work then i got my life back

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Hey Lee you and me both .... i get you totally what can i say ? so many men in similar situations . i was away with many high profile people and a good few wiped out their women full stop , some awaiting trial some doing 25s or more. some less . Prisons all over the nation is full of men who are there through women its shocking . good luck mate .

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i know pr and birth c is only paper but people need to under stand to guys like us it means closure. . . the end. and violence towards ss and cafcass will do the job 😉

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but i know you wouldnt swap ex's lol and if you would i wouldnt let ya or put it on ya only i can handle that **** lol, on a serious point it has got a lot easier over the months and when it becomes years i will think about him. but not every day thats for sure.

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i gotta have closure from such a bad event, good side is ive meet someone whos a right fity, thats karma lol

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Lee if you do what you say you will end up arrested and at this point you will probably never be able to any more kids as they would be a report on you and ss would have to be involved. Then your new women would not be pleased!!! If you really do not want to see your son anymore, just walk away, stop thinking about him. My Dad walked away, through my Mum being a difficult cow, he couldn’t take anymore. Years later I forgave my mum and dad as I didn’t want to go through my life with so much hate of being abandoned , and that is what you do if you walk away. Remember its not the childs fault, they can not do anything apart from look out of the window and hope there Daddy will come to see them

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You are highly unlikely to ever get your name removed from the birth certificate no matter how violent you are or act to the court and involved parties. Your more likely to end up with your name flagged on SS records for ever more so that any future partner / kids will automatically be looked at and your ex will be given a non-molestation order and a residence order with it stipulated that you are not to have contact with the child. Its even possible that you behave in that way to SS/CAFCASS that you will end up with a further criminal record.

You might feel angry and bitter towards your ex, but the only person who will be hurt by all of the above is your child. Your ex will have won, you have played into their hands and they have what you want. The proof that you are a violent, angry agressive bully and justifies the story she will be saying that she had to stop contact because you are dangerous. She wont give a toss.

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So whats the answer? from the last few posts the only way of getting peace is to top my self! Well i aint up for that. And i wanna make something clear im not doing this so i can get out of maintenance or csa, I WANT CLOUSURE I am not living the next 16yrs in a situation that i can see my son when my ex is well or in a good mood, or on the condition im not with someone else, As for the violence and threats to ss and cafcass to get what i want. that would not be an issue with future partners cos for a start i will print this lot off lol.
I cannot win this battle and if i could i would and i would never give up! With PR removed i cannot be contacted for any reason how long till shes not getting her way and im getting "oh his ill you gotta come doctors/hospital or you gotta come to open night/parents evening" and telling schools etc ive got pr and giving my details over!

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But Lee, she can she can do all of that anyway whether you have PR or not.

99% of the time fathers are moaning that even with PR they cant get any information from schools, doctors, etc because their ex has told them not to give it out, so the odds of you being bombarded with information from 3rd parties is really really slim.

Your problem is your ex, and shes going to be the problem with or without PR. She can give schools your details and request they send information to you, you write back and tell them you dont want it, or file it under bin. School dont send it. Even if you dont have PR she can still contact you if childs ill, and you choose whether or not to respond.

Ultimately PR is worthless unless you choose to exercise the rights & responsibilities it gives you.

She cannot force you to have contact with a child if you dont want to have contact.

No judge in the land will force you to have contact or any involvement if you dont want it.

Change your phone number, make sure you dont give it to your ex and walk away and never look back.

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As a matter of interest, do you drive? If you have a bad experience driving and decide you never want to drive again, would you try to get you driving test result cancelled? I doubt it - I imagine you'd simply not get behind the wheel again. The birth certificate is a legal document stating the fact of who the mother and father is and this confers certain rights to you but doesn't force you to accept those rights except that of maintenance and if you weren't on the certificate and didn't have PR, you'd still have to pay maintenance as that's the law. If you don't want PR, then don't exercise it, but don't do anything that would hurt your child - they are totally innocent.

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she is still driving me mad, she was asking me this sat and sunday "are you gonna have him" how do i make her go away for good, i think its time my new gf meet her she has offered but i have asked her not to fearing the backlash, . . . i want this rat out of my life!

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How is she contacting you?

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work mobile (i cant change that mobile number) and through friends, social services and new/fake fb accounts

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You just tell her no. Tell her you have decided not to have contact with your child anymore and if she keeps contacting you, you will view it as harassement and apply for a restraining order.

Or ring the provider and have her number blocked. Set your facebook so only friends can message you. Tell social services you do not want contact with your son, and that you will not enter any further correspondence with them

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But thats not really my issue my point is with a no contact order and pr removed, i feel she would give up, without that she wont and my life is [censored], is that understandable?

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I understand Lee. I really do.

However the chances of you having your PR removed are so slight, and you would have to be so violent and nasty and such extreme circumstances that it runs a worse chace of messing up your life more.

Dont you see that? If you are so dangerous and nutty, you will be on Social Services records. You might well have a child with your new partner. The second you are named as its father SS will be involved. Do you think they will just go away when you say ahhh well i was only so dangerous and violent because i wanted to get rid of my ex? Or do you think they will be demanding you jump through all the same hoops you are refusing to jump through now?

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if i did decide to have a child in the future (however im not im 42 and this is my first and only trust me it wont be going on again) how would i be involved with ss anyway and they could only get involved if there was arrests/charges/incidents with the new partner and there wouldnt be!!!

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What type of phone is your work mobile? If it's android then I know ways to block but there are also ways on other phones as well.lock down your Facebook to only friends. Take control rather than have her control you.

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its sorted now, just spoke to my new gf shes had enough of the **** shes seen all the posts on here and knows the [censored] ive had for months so shes going round to see she her 😉

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if i had 500k i would of been long gone lol

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Lee, i get totally where your coming from but hey , blanking her is the best policy , once a rat always a rat , believe in karma . it may take a long time ? but what goes around comes around long term , i spent a year just under locked up and had a lot of time to think , many men killed their partners for various reasons in there , and i know they regret doing it . Hate and spite is dangerous , let the rat get on with it and you move on , just prey your child doesnt turn out like her !

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Cheers Basszebra

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