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Hi
I am helping my son fill in his c100 and Im stuck with section 7, why are you making this application.
Well I could write a book why and how controlling his ex is ( after a 12 week romance can call her that )
I ve written so much then crossed it out, my head is spinning, I want to get this right .
Is it best to tell the whole story so the court can get a good idea whats been happening or just bullet point, it does say not to do a full satement as we might have to do one later.
As my son is now getting 7 hours twice a month (under rules !!) (starts middle of October, after not seeing her for 3 months )and we need the threat lifted off ,if you disobey you wont see her ,He wants contact with out rules and overnight ,say two weekends a month from Fri night to Sunday lunch time , He works a 4 on 4 off pattern and she lives 100 miles a way from him , and no car yet as he has only just passed his test . so we also need me to be allowed to pick her up and drop her off as I will be doing this anyway with my son but I will need to be able to do this by myself as he may be travelling to my house as I live an hour away. He has been paying £50 a week for a long time so this is not an issue and its a private arrangement, He is going for p r order and will then be put on the birth certificate , we will also like 3 weeks holiday a year and some time over xmas and her birthday. Every time we have asked for over night she says no, she says no to her meeting extended family , my grandaughter is not allowed to come to my house , even though Ive been allowed to take her out . Instead my son has to trail round for 7 hours in a remote area, so How do I word all this with out ranting and being emotional .
Good morning ak57...
Have another look at the excellent guide for filling in the C100 application by Yoji, where he talks in a little more detail about section 7. Read through it a few times to become familiar with its suggestions.
Try not to get personal or make any negative comment about the mum, this wont help, your son must be seen to be calm and balanced, and only concerned in the best interests of his child. Rather express a desire to put the past behind and work in unison for the childs well being.
From what Yoji says you should firstly list the contact arrangements agreed initially, and then any changes made to those arrangements, and why that was.
Next you would say why you are bringing the application to the Court...and the example given on the sticky is....to ensure that (CHILDS NAME) has regular, guaranteed quality time with me...you could add... and my immediate family, which has been restricted at the moment...you could then mention the contradiction of grandmother being allowed to take the child out but then not being allowed to take the child home and what this means, ie having to find things to do for 7 hours in an unfamiliar and remote area, and the wish to make the time of contact a fulfilling and positive experience for the child.
Next, it is suggested....I would ask that the Court seek to support me...and then list as simply as possible the ideal contact your son would like, as you state in the paragraph that starts ...As my son is now getting 7 hours.... but leave out any derogatory remarks about the mother! If it were me I would list it in a 1.2.3... format.
I have supported my son through his application for Residency, which he now has, at the time they lived with me, and yet I was not allowed any involvement in the actual hearing...it was nerve wracking not to be allowed into the court as I had been by my sons side throughout! Be prepared for that!
Perhaps when you have written out your response to section 7 and you still have doubts, you could post it on here and ask for others opinions on it, or any suggestions for improvement...I'm no expert myself, but I do know what you're going through. Good luck with everything.
Hi There,
Keep this as simple as possible,
Give the reasons for apply,
so to remove the control the mother has over contact and to allow a full relationship to build between father and daughter.
Give a brief discription of some of the issues
so you can talk here about the threat of stopping ALL contact if the conditions placed by the childs mother (there a different option to "EX" 😉 )
then give details of what you would like the judge to do
So here you can talk about the amount of contact and the freedom to do as you like when you have it
Darren
You beat me too it NJ :p
As always good advice from Nanny Jane especailly this last part
Good morning ak57...
Perhaps when you have written out your response to section 7 and you still have doubts, you could post it on here and ask for others opinions on it, or any suggestions for improvement...I'm no expert myself, but I do know what you're going through. Good luck with everything.
If your in doubt let us have a read and we will give some feedback.
Darren
Seperate sheet for section 7 of form C100
Previous agreements
During the last three and a half years I have gone from no contact with my daughter, xxxxx, to 2 hours supervised contact every Saturday. The contact was in Miss xxxxxxxx parents home as at the time this is where my daughter and Miss xxxxxxx lived.
I agreed to this arrangement as I considered it to be in my daughter’s best interest, so we could get to know each other. This was extended gradually to 7 hours once a week unsupervised contact. The contact came with restrictions and rules. I was not allowed out of the area and not allowed to take her to my home, which made it very difficult to both entertain and care for the needs of a toddler who needed to have her nappy changed and a afternoon nap.
. I spent most of the day in parks; a shopping centre and an inside play area. I did on one occasion take xxxxx to meet my family, she had a wonderful time playing with her cousins. Despite the fact that Miss xxxxxxxx had repeatedly said that she thought it was really important that xxxxxxx had contact with my family, she was really angry and threatened to stop me seeing her.
Reasons for bring this to court
Miss xxxxxxx and xxxxx In August 2012 have moved to the xxxxxx this is 100 miles from my home and a 7 hour round trip by public transport.
I asked Miss xxxxxxx if I could have my daughter overnight due to the distance and to be in a natural environment
My Mother lives 45 minutes from Miss xxxxxxx and I asked if we could initially visit so xxxxxx would feel comfortable and then eventually stay overnight, unfortunately the answer was no, although my Mother has been allowed to take xxxxx out unsupervised
. Miss xxxxxx has stated I can have her twice a month on a Saturday 10 till 5.but with the same restrictions, this means having to find things to do for 7 hours in an unfamiliar and remote area, my wish is to make the time of contact a fulfilling and positive experience for my daughter
What I want the court to do
I am requesting the court to remove the control the mother has over contact and to allow a full relationship to build between father and daughter, to ensure that xxxxx has regular, guaranteed quality time with me and my immediate family, which has been restricted
I would like a defined contact order
1. Two weekends a month from 10am Saturday till 2 pm Sunday
Due to my work pattern of 4 nights on and 4 nights off I would be able to give Miss xxxxx a monthly calendar 2 months in advance of the dates. I would also request my Mother be allowed on occasions to pick xxxxx up and return on the said weekends due to me travelling
2. Two weeks Holiday a year, to be split, one week at Easter and one the first week of August
3. Christmas Period, I would like to pick xxxx up on the 26th December at 10am and return her home on the 28th of December at 2pm I feel it would be unfair to expect xxxx to be travelling on Christmas day, If Miss xxxxx is going to be with her family I can arrange to pick xxxx up from there.
4. New years Eve/New years day alternate years
...Thats sounds good to me ak57!...Although I haven't had any experience of filling these forms out, as my son had a solicitor that took care of that, but I'm sure Darren will be able to tell you if it needs any tweeking!
Best of luck!
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