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He’s a poser for anyone with experience of all this “negotiating “
So my ex takes the kids abroad without consent for holidays yet I don’t get a single phone call a week and only get Alternate weekends and she refuses to speak aboht when I can have the kids for holiday times and claims she applied for the passports so they are hers . Whatever . So my question is will it be frowned upon by the courts if I say I will , via the passport office put my children on alert that when they’re passports are used to try to remove my children from the uk the adults travelling with them are stopped and asked to produce a court order or my letter of consent .if Indirect contact is Reinstated I’ll provide consent . She needs it to leave anyways without a court order so is it negotiating or will I look bad ?
Whilst I get your frustration, you may come across as confrontational if you SD this negotiating tactic.
You can point out to the court that she will not discuss holiday arrangements with you, which makes it impossible to organise holidays away. She is also refusing to pass over the passports, so you would like there to be definition within the final order concerning holidays and for the passports to be surrendered to you at least one month before the holiday starts. In return you will give her details of where you will be staying and flight information.
You could ask that you be afforded the same consideration when she is taking the children away, and if her holidays coincide with your ordered contact time, that she make the children available for indirect contact whilst they’re away.
Hey thanks . All makes sense but surely she can’t just expect to come and go as she pleases and has even deified me by going Away even when I write via a solicitor she did not have my permission . On that note , her farther shouts his head off at my kids which I’m not happy about . Presumably as part of the order and as a condition of any permission to visit them it can be ordered he’s not allowed to shout at my kids ?
If she has an order, where it states the children live with her, she can go away for up to 28 days without your permission. However I believe that ordered contact within an order trumps that condition, although it would be helpful to get confirmation of that.
The trouble with stopping holidays at the airport is that it impacts badly on the children, who would be looking forward to their holiday... so although you'd behurting the mother, you'd also be hurting your children too, which I very much doubt you want to do.
It's debatable whether the court would make an order in respect of her father shouting, you can mention it to cafcass and ask that it stops, but as her dad's not a party to proceedings, the only way to stop it would be with a Prohibited Steps Order and whether that would be successful for a shouting grandfather, again that's up for debate.
Yeah makes
Sense cheers 🙂
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