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I guess it may have been. I guess this is the downside of representing yourself - you don't know what else you're allowed to do because you don't know the system. I rather went where i went when I was asked to and spoke when I was given the opportunity to speak and said my bit. I guess I wasn't in the right place to know if there was anything specific I could ask of the court!

Fingers crossed it works out alright in the end

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One further thing has happened actually, and I wonder if anyone can advise me on what I could do.

Last week my ex went on holiday for a week. She only told me and the children a few days prior to leaving. She left the children with her boyfriend (they do not live together).

So for the children, mum disappeared with a few hours notice and they:
- had to live with someone else
- had to travel to/from school with that person (note for those who read the current court process my ex is stating the time it takes my boys to get to school from my house 20-25 minutes as too long and disruptive to them, yet she left them with her boyfriend to travel in 30 minutes to school
- for my youngest this was his 8-12th ever days at school

For me, I was only given a few hours notice that:
- my children would be living with someone else, somewhere new. I had to ask for the address
- I wasn't given the opportunity to provide the care myself, which in my opinion would have been much more appropriate

To be clear. I'm fine with the fact that there will naturally be times over the children's childhoods where one of us can't be there during our contact. To me, if one of us has to be away we should give the other parent first refusal on the time. At the very least, we should be giving substantial notice to both each other and the children of change. I think this is a terrible abuse of her position as the primary carer.

So some advice please. I think this action contradicts her taking me to court to offer the children more consistency, because I live 20 minutes from the school and it's disruptive, and that it's hard on our children to start school from two houses. At the very least I would like to use this to get the current court proceedings thrown out. So does anyone know/have any advice on:
- Is what she did legal? I suspect it probably is however....
- Is it frowned upon? Given we share the children 60:40 it feels like it would have been far less disruptive for the children to live with me while she was gone
- Can I give this information to Cafcass to update their recommendation to the court for my final hearing?
- Is it worth me writing to her solicitor in advance of the next court hearing to point out that this was inappropriate/contradictory with her court proceedings and that I don't want it to happen again/will be advising the court of these events? Perhaps this may lead her solicitor to advise her to drop the current proceedings?
- I can't see how anyone can say I'm disruptive when I have never missed or been late for my 40% of the time in two and a half years and she does things like this. I look forward to sharing this information with the courts.

Advise, thoughts etc much appreciated

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hi,

if these are serious concerns for you, then you can try have them put into the court order. my ex is a clown and she had stuff put in recital section like; when kids are with me, i am not allowed to leave them with my mother.

what i found with cafcass is, once they printed off their report with recommendations, they are unwilling to change it. e.g. in my case, report did not make any mention of mid-week overnights. when i asked her about it, she said she did not recommend it and stands by it. if you disagree with any thing in cafcass report, challenge it in court and not with the report author.

check out https://www.stowefamilylaw.co.uk/blog/2019/07/17/the-difference-between-a-recital-and-an-order/

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Hi again

Good news. I had been hearing up for a final hearing on this, but have just heard that my ex is dropping the case and not proceeding. Obviously this is great news.

Two quick questions:
- I've already paid for a barrister, and can only.get a partial refund. Given my ex has pulled out of the court proceedings is there any way she can be responsible for my costs given she is admitting this was not a worthwhile case?
- I believe there is some kind of order that can be put in place that means she would have to apply tot he court to be allowed to start any future proceedings. What is this called, and would this circumstance allow me to apply for it?

Thanks all. Very relieved here

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hi,

its good she dropped the case. but are you still getting to see your kids as before? is she going to start messing you and kids around?

with costs, i remember when my barrister did my position statements etc, right at the the top he wrote: there is no costs order. think he did this to protect me, incase ex tries to shove her costs on me and get me to pay.

you can look into costs order thing. i read that its very rare for judges to order costs to be paid. take a look:

https://childlawadvice.org.uk/information-pages/seeking-costs-in-court/

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