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[Solved] social services ripped family apart. help please!

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(@jkickerk)
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And how is court the only way, if ss can't deem me to be a risk which they can't then how can they keep advising to not allow contact.

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Topic starter Posted : 28/08/2016 11:00 pm
(@jkickerk)
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Do you work for ss ?

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Topic starter Posted : 28/08/2016 11:00 pm
 Mojo
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And how is court the only way, if ss can't deem me to be a risk which they can't then how can they keep advising to not allow contact.

If you don't take it to court and the SS are ignoring all your communication, what other options do you think you have?

I'm only trying to advise you, I'm not your enemy here. I can only speak from having helped many members here over the years. Constantly bombarding the authorities with texts and emails will only make them think you are unreasonable and aggressive... This sort of behaviour will only back up their initial assessment of you.

You are under a harrassment charge, the SS have intervened to prevent all contact between you, your ex and child, I have advised you given the facts that you've shared.

Im sorry if you don't like what I've said, my intention is only ever to help.

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Posted : 29/08/2016 11:57 pm
 Mojo
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Do you work for ss ?

No, I work and volunteer, doing what I do here, supporting and advising separated parents, mainly Dads.

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Posted : 29/08/2016 11:59 pm
 Yoda
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I have to echo Mojo really.

Many members and us mods have taken time to help and reply to you. Unfortunately, the only way to progress things is to make an application for a Child Arrangement Order and realise you are playing the long game.

I understand how frustrating it is and the emotional impact not seeing a child can have but you really need to play the system, jump through the hoops and pick your battles carefully.

None of us here work for Childrens Services but we are all used to dealing with them and understand how difficult that can be.

I would strongly suggest that you contact or attend Families Need Fathers to get some face to face guidance and support on progressing the current situation and that you listen to the advice being offered to you.

Good luck

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Posted : 30/08/2016 3:35 pm
(@jkickerk)
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I haven't been constantly bombarding them with messages. I have sent a couple of emails and so has the fathers rights group who agree I am being treated unfairly. They have allowed supervised contact until the case moved to another area. They already knew I had sent messages asking how my daughter is prior to ever allowing supervised contact. I have done everything they have asked of me and more. They don't assess Me whatsoever I work full time save money for my child and have sent clothes toys and money to her mum through ss. Iv done all the courses asked of me. Surely they can't keep saying I'm a danger to my child when anyone that knows me knows that isn't the case, just that ss haven't bothered to look into it. It is them actually who are emotionally harming my child not letting her have her rights which is to have contact with both parents, and they can only back that up with brief initial assessments and hearsay. Sorry the way my message came across its an emotional time. My point is that it isn't my partner stopping me have contact it's ss so why would I take my partner to court.

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Topic starter Posted : 30/08/2016 3:59 pm
 Yoda
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Because it's the only way you are going to get to see your children. If your ex wants to allow contact, she will, IMO I think she is passing the buck and using SS as an excuse to hide behind. If she isn't opposed then this would come out in court.

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Posted : 30/08/2016 4:02 pm
 Mojo
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As Yoda says, if you take it to court you will get the opportunity to find out what the SS stance is and whether your ex has made any allegations. If you have jumped through all of the hoops, the court will be able to assess all of this, if the court feel there are no safeguarding issues they will most likely order that contact should be restarted.

The fact that they agreed to supervised contact and then stopped it for no good reason will also be a matter for the court, these are things that you can ask and get answersto, which you aren't getting now.

You haven't had any success communicating with SS directly, at least in court they will have to communicate and share the information they have, they will be asked to provide the court with what their involvement is.

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Posted : 30/08/2016 4:15 pm
 Mojo
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You mention that a fathers rights group have been involved in contacting the SS, can I ask which group this is?

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Posted : 30/08/2016 4:17 pm
(@jkickerk)
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It's the family rights group sorry. The ss have openly said that they have advised mother not to allow contact. So another words they will be saying allow contact and we'll apply for a care order. They have used the excuse that I could be a risk to staff to not let me have any more supervised contact however the first two contact sessions they agreed went well. The probation worker said she does a risk assessment to staff and I am low risk. I could go on and on but I'm not being treated fairly. I'm stressed enough as it is without having to drag it through courts for months when I know I'm a good dad it's pathetic. I'm doing well just to be hacking it out at work never mind anything else I just want to see my little girl. The Blackpool social services were alright. I was allowed to pass things across to them and they at least sorted contact out and kept me up to date with her wellbeing. How can the dim wits who are working on the case now have the power to withhold my daughters rights of seeing her father who has made sure she had everything she needed including a drug free hard working dad from the moment I found out she was coming. Absolutely pathetic, yet I see parents treating there kids badly on a regular basis it makes me sick. The system is a joke.

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Topic starter Posted : 30/08/2016 8:10 pm
(@jkickerk)
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Oh another thing I haven't mentioned apparently I asked my little then 4 month old girl where her mum lives which is a complete lie. I also found out the step in assistant who supervised the contact session is a women who is friends with my daughters mums dad who has never had any involvement whatsoever through the pregnancy of his daughter or the first 3 months of my daughters life not even a congratulations on your daughter. And it's funny how I'm being treated like this !

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Topic starter Posted : 30/08/2016 8:15 pm
 Yoda
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If you want to complain about Childrens Services you need to follow their complaints procedure and possibly seek support from your local MP as well.

To see your daughter, it seems like the only route available to you is an application to the court.

I appreciate you need to vent but that's not going to get you to see your daughter.

You would be better focusing your energies on taking CS to task and making an application to see your daughter and let the court decide, rather than a Social Worker.

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Posted : 30/08/2016 8:25 pm
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