Ex partner with unborn child not allowing me to scans, birth or 50/50

hi,

sorry to hear your going through a tough time. I can relate to this as I went through court involving a new born.

1. breastfeeding is not a valid excuse to keep child away from you. court ordered my ex to give me a private room at her place, for me to see baby.

2. she may decide to name the baby without involving you. if you want to fight that, then you would have to argue about that in court. In my opinion its not worth the hassle and stress.

3. It's very unlikely court will give you 50/50 for a new born child, but you can still ask for it.

4. You can wait for child to be born, then book a MIAM mediation appointment for yourself. mediator will decide whether or not to invite her for talks. if they don't invite, they will give you permission to apply to court.

5. If she does not want you to be present at the birth, it is better that you not go. better not to make a scene there, where police could likely be called.

Just to add to that.  She can't put you on the birth certificate unless you go with her to register the birth.  It must be very difficult.  Can you be sure the child is yours?

@bill337 

hi there thanks for the reply, it’s been like a emotional rollercoaster ride so far. 

Although having to see my baby in the mother’s house isn’t ideal it’s great to know I will at least be able to have my own time with the baby. 

Is there any certain age where 50/50 access is more recommended do you know? 

I have got mediation booked for this week to speak with someone on how to move forwarded so hopefully that will be helpful.

Your right it would not be good to just turn up although it’s devastating to think I won’t be able to be at the birth of my first child, i think it will destroy me but that’s. A decision that is on her not me I suppose, completely out of my control, just a shame that it has to be like this. 

@champagne

i didn’t know that although she has stated to my solicitors she will put me on the birth certificate so that is very strange I can’t be 100% sure but I believe I’m going to request to get a DNA test to be sure. 

Have a look at the www.gov.uk website for registering a birth and it explains the procedure for unmarried parents.  You can both go together, you can sign a statutory declaration of parentage and she can take this with her or there can be a court order giving the father parental responsibility which has to be taken.

@bill337 hey man I feel your pain , I’ve just been going through this BS myself, not a nice taste in your mouth , I’ve been seeing this girl for 10 years we’ve never been together or been a couple , it more like friends with benefits that went on too long.  So she got pregnant in June 2022,I haven’t spoken to her since then she messaged me on September 19 2022 saying she’s pregnant by me and she’s 14 weeks knowing full well I haven’t spoken to her in 3 months since June , so I was sceptical due me haven’t spoken to her in 3 months so I thought she was lying , so I told her I had the snip to figure out if she was lying or trying to fool me , so it turns out she was actually pregnant, so anyway I wasn’t open to being dad due to our  past situation we wasn’t consistent we always Argued so I thought having a kid together wasn’t the right decision it was cause drama and headache something I didn’t want to deal due to me not like drama and arguing with people constantly, so anyway I had some time to think on the situation and my head came round to idea of being a dad , so I tried to be civil with the situation, I’ve asked her to come to the scans with her before the baby was born so it would be easy for me to accept fact I’m going to be a dad and make sure I’m there for everything so I can start bonding  with the kid before it’s here , she refuses and denied me coming to the scans took her friends and her mom instead ,  I offered to take her shopping to buy baby clothes and stuff for the kid straight up refused me , we kept arguing through last remaining months of her pregnancy, from December 20 2022 she cut off all communication with me blocked me on all platforms, didn’t message me till she given birth march 9 2023 ,  didn’t even invited me to the hospital whilst she was in labour, went on to name the kid herself without involved me I had to find out what baby look like from Instagram didn’t even had the decency to send me pics everyone know what that kid looked like before I did ,  never been so hurt in my life those are the things I really wanted to experience being a dad for the first time and she took that away from me and denied me all that and expects me to be normal and start playing daddy this whole situation have completely put me off being a dad just put a nasty taste in my mouth  and pushed me away from wanting to have any relationship with that child especially if I’m not the birth certificate she can switch at any time and say your not seeing the kid , I was still open minded to meeting the kid.  So we agreed to for me to come hers to see the kid for the first time march 14 2023 at 18:00 , but I told her I’ve got a doctors appointment before for some checks up she I don’t know how long they will take , so I message her 2 hours before and told her I’m going to be half hour late due to the traffic, she turn around and said don’t bother coming if you can’t make it on time I’ve made plans now , I was like really only half hour late what difference is that what plans are more important than that child meeting her dad for the first time , I was arguing with her on the way to hers whilst driving ending up having a massive accident that day didn’t even ending getting to meet the kid , she did not care one bit not even asked if i was okay, all my family and friends told me to just cut her off and cut my losses with that , no matter I do it will never be good enough for her , all to do with that fact I hurt when I told her I had the snip when she first told me was pregnant keep holding over my head constantly making me feel bad for one mistake I made

So first things first, not being in a relationship with this woman is going to be the most important thing you can do. 

Keep all communication to Whatsapp where you can to avoid any accusations of being threatening or anything. 

Personally, naming a child is such an awkward one if you're not together, even with my ex wife we were the happiest couple you could imagine when we were having our girls and I basically had zero say in finding out the [censored] and naming them it's just something you're going to have to write off but suggesting if she names your child could you put the middle name in seems a decent compromise to offer. 

If I was in your shoes I would try to establish a relationship with her parents, not to point out her flaws to them but to kind of say, look this has happened, I want you to know I'm wanting to be involved as much as possible, but without taking over completely, she doesn't want me at the birth and i get that, but here's my number if you could keep in touch with me a bit throughout that day and i'll make sure i'm in a nearby cafe or pub (orange juice of course) When me and my ex wife split up, the good relationship i had with all my in laws really helped while we established the new normal, to a degree anyway. They'll appreciate that and it may even provide an extra avenue into seeing your new born more than you may have done. 

Elephant in the room, is it yours? It's a horrible thought but probably best nip that one in the bud on day one and have it found out either way just to be sure.

Use this time to prepare for having to fight to see your child, but also do your best to get to a stage where you don't have to. This next few months is going to be hard for her too, she'll need your help more than she realises right now and if the penny does drop for her it'll be better for all three of you if you two have an amicable relationship at least.

@Dawid177

How'd u go with ur ex missus & kid mate?  What ended up happening?  Does she let u see ur kid now?  How long was it before u could apply for 50/50?

I'm going through exactly the same thing with my ex missus, she's 26wks pregnant & I haven't heard from her for over 14wks now as she blocked me on all platforms & she also called the police to warn me not to contact her again unless its through a lawyer.  A friend of mine that still talks to my ex told me last week that we're having a baby girl, pretty [censored] way to find out the [censored] of my 1st child especially when I'v waited 41yrs to be a dad. Get this freaky [censored] - bubs Due Date just happens to be my mums bday 22 March (mum passed away 10yrs ago) & she will also be the 1st girl in my family as both my brothers have 2 boys each, mum always wanted a baby girl (she always said she wished that my younger bro was a girl).  We were named after the Dukes Of Hazard Luke & Beau, we had our photo in the real Dukes car when mum was pregnant with younger bro & the local paper done a story because mum was guna call my little bro Daisy if was a girl but it came out of her with a [censored] so she named him Neil. I still have the local paper with our photos & mums story from 1986.

Point of this story being is that I'd love to call my baby girl Daisy so mum finally gets her wish but I dont think the ex would agree lol.