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Sorry A.Dad, that should have said “I just wouldn’t worry about it”
Hopefully, if a different programme Is put forward, this will be considered by the court and other options for contact discussed at the next hearing... in the meantime try not to worry about what might or might not happen.
All the best
It sounds favourable for you that the programme tutor is going to make appropriate alternative suggestions to the court & it's likely the judge (not Cafcass) will decide the next steps.
Wishing you all the best for the hearing. Do let us know how you get on.
Hi Yoda and mojo and everyone ,
Had my hearing today and not very happy as nothing happened as usual,
Before the hearing My ex solicitor spoke to me and said we have seen now that you are not suitable for the programme so we will ask the judge for a final hearing ,
I told her what about moving the contact to supported contact untill the final hearing as you told me my ex agreed to move it to supported contact she said noo we can't agree about that now and it should be as it's untill the final hearing
I spoke to cafcass officer before the hearing and she said to be honest I am bit disappointed that you were not suitable as you demonstrated to me that you were ,
I explained to her that I was open with the programme tutor and the programme tutor decided I am not suitable because I didn't knowlodge that I shoved my ex or was aggressive to her and that our relation didn't have any domestic abuse,
I told her I can't admit somthing I didn't do, but she seen I was open and motivated to do the programme but not suitable,
She said she will still recommend the contact to move to supported contact but unfortunately she can't recommend more than that,
We went to the judge ,
The judge didn't know if I was suitable or not as he didn't read the report yet ,
We handed it for him he quickly read it and said ok I can see that we will need a hearing so we can list this case for a final hearing and for both parties to put their statements and evedince and next hearing we will have more time to talk,
He relisted it mid January,
I asked what if we can move the contact from supervised to supported untill the next hearing , his answer was that he can't make decision today if both parents are not agreed about it , I told him that my ex agreed last time we can move it to supported contact but she said no today and for the contact to stay the same,
I said the main concern for my ex was ( flight risk ) and I am doing all I can to reassure her,
Judge said he understand that and he has somthing to assist that but he will not talk about it now as next hearing we will have more time to listen to me and my ex.
Now I am bit disappointed that nothing is moving forward but i will have to wait untill mid January for the judge judgment for how the contact will be.
He asked me to write a statement stating my proposals and evedince,
I don't know what he means by evedince ,
Can Yoda and mojo and everyone who has experience advice me please what they think and what I should do ???
And while writing the statement what kind of proposals that I should put to be reasonable???
And what if the judge made his judgment and I am not satisfied with it ?
Can I appeal or ask for another hearing .
Many thanks in advance for your support
Sorry to hear that things didn't move forward today. Unfortunately, if parents can't agree then the court has to list a final hearing to deal with the matter so that you both have a fair hearing.
Is she writing her statement and you are responding to her or are you both having to submit your statements on the same day?
In terms of proposals, it's good to put forward an eventual schedule and include suggestions of how that can be reached.
If you don't like the decision the judge makes, you can only appeal if they make an error in law. You can't appeal just because you disagree with it.
Hi Yoda thank you for your answer,
Yes we both submitting the statements on the same day and judge said he will listen to both of us and then say his judgment on the same day,
It terms of proposals if I want to see my son 2 or 3 days a week how should I suggest that??
I mean 2 full days including over nights aswell,
How should I put this on my proposal to start step by step to get to this result ,
Does final hearing means that I will not be able to get any other hearing after that if I am not happy with the judgment ??
I have been a year now in supervised contact centre and all the reports are very positive ,
It's just recommended by cafcass to move to supported contact,
Do you think in my circumstances judge can order more contact in final hearing Or sometimes final hearing can still end by being in contact centre ,
Because I know courts don't prefer keeping the child in contact centres for long,
When I said I am doing all my best to reassure my ex that I will not take our son outside the country he said I understand and that he has somthing to assist with this but he will not talk about it today ??
Is that a good sign ???
Thinking is just killing me and I am so worried after 1 year and half fighting to spend time with my son,
The final hearing will keep things the same or just move it to supported contact which it will be awful,
I appreciate your advice Yoda.
Thank you so much
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