Thanks for joining us on the forum – glad to have you here. You are welcome to post 24/7 but please note that whilst we have forum moderators we will only be moderating the forum during office hours. If though you need urgent crisis help, please contact Samaritans on 116 123.
Spurgeons and Dad.Info doesn’t investigate reports of abuse or neglect. But below, you can find advice on who to contact if you have concerns about a child or young person.
Reporting a concern
It can be difficult to know what to do if you think a child is at risk. It’s important to remember that if you’ve spotted things that don’t seem right, others will have too. Speaking up can make sure that child gets help as soon as possible.
The sooner you contact your local children’s social care duty team, the quicker they can act. They’re available 24 hours a day, and can make an anonymous report if that feels safer. If a child is in immediate danger, please call the police straight away by dialling 999.
Report child abuse or neglect to your local council
Use these links to get in touch with your local council:
Hi all,
Apologies if this post is not in the right category. I am new here so wasn't sure.
Anyway I need some advice as I am not sure how to proceed, what the best thing to do is, and how to help my children. Apologies if the story below is long winded but I feel it is needed so I can connect with you guys and get the best possible advice.
I have 3 children with my separated (soon to be ex) wife. 3 years ago we separated as there was way too much arguing between us and it was escalating in front of the children so we both decided to do that. However 2 months later I was accused of walking out, not caring, giving up, even though we had both agreed to do this. At this point we had both decided to co-parent the children and turning it into a 50% - 50% situation. We had put a deal between each other in place that if we met someone, or started to have a relationship with someone, that it would be 6 months before we could introduce them to the children. I met someone, who I have been with since, and we have a very good situation and a very good home life, she has 2 children as well (very brady bunch!). About a year and a half ago, my ex started having issues with my oldest, who is 7 now, shouting, screaming, saying he hates her, then crying when she wasn't there or at work. Real separation anxiety and a host of other issues. My ex was telling me all of this, and I suggested going to see a child phsychologist, just us to see how we could both work together, she refused. Therefore I went on my own and got some good stuff from the professional. My ex then decided that my son needed to go and see someone as well, which I didn't agree to because how can she expect him to go when she wont go herself. Anyway he started seeing the Well-being specialist at school and hopefully that helped the situation. This behaviour continued to carry on between them, and then my ex decided what she needed to do was attend AA has her drinking was getting out of control. This happened 8 months ago, and I have been supportive of this, however her meetings and her dedication to the program has been put first and I felt that she was growing further apart from the children and not doing enough with them. I should mention that when the children are with her, they have a nanny, so she is able to leave them and get on with her things. 8 weeks ago, the children mentioned to me that they had met mummys new boyfriend (don't forget our agreement), this was the second time that this has happened. I asked her when she was going to tell me about this, obvious excuse etc etc. No matter, fine we move forward. A week ago, she told me that she was moving into her new boyfriends flat and that we should go to a one week on - one week off system with the children. I didn't really have many concerns about that but I did say that she should think about not moving so fast and rushing in to decisions which obviously benefit her but not necessarily her children. No response. My partner and I had them last week, and all was great. No dramas, no fights, no issues, great chats with the kids explaining to them the setup and trying to make it as smooth as possible. Now the kids are back there this week.
Day 1 with mummy: I get a message in the morning how they have had a major drama with my daughter (aged 5) dropping them to school and how she didn't want to go into the school with ** (mummys boyfriend) and mummy couldn't get out of the car because it was raining and she didn't want to get her hair wet.
Day 2 with mummy: I get a message in the morning and I think the only way to do this is type the message word for word so see below:
'Hi, can you please have our son tonight? He punched me twice very violently in the back on the way to school. Reason: Daughters water bottle leaked in the boot of (boyfriend) car onto his bag. He went crazy. He called her stupid and then threw his bag on the sand which then got covered in sand as it was very wet at the bottom. Then he refused to let me carry it as he wanted to remove the sand and we were running late. He stayed on the pavement cleaning the sand off with a stick whilst we kept walking. When he ran up to catch up he punched me in the back. I told him off for this and then he walked out the school gates again. We kept walking. He then ran up to me again and punched me harder in the back in front of other parents in the reception area at the front of the school. He then refused to go to his class. We were late so the teacher took him. I told him he's grounded and not going night swimming at *. He said he hates me and ***. So hes going to you tonight'
So before I replied to her, I decided to speak to the Nanny and ask her what happened this morning for him to be in such a mood. She told me the kids got ready, had breakfast and then were playing outside whilst the ex was getting ready. Apparently she was taking a long time, so they ended up running late. My son ran inside to get something, and then when he was getting in the car, my ex started yelling at him. The nanny then continued to tell me how they get smacked in public places, yelled at, and all the rest.
And now I don't know what to do.
Do I accept to take my son tonight, but what is that teaching him? Do I suggest to her to come with me to speak to a professional? Do I take my son off of her full time? Do I seek legal action? I am really at a loss of what the right and next step is?
Any ideas please or advise.
Hi there
You seem to have a firm grip on handling the care of your children. There are elements that are concerning and I do think that you need to meet with the mother to talk this through. When the children are with you, they are happy and well behaved, so you have to consider what is making them misbehave when they are with her.
It's not surprising that your son is hitting her, if she is using physical punishment on the children, this is what they will learn.
The speed with which she has moved the children in with a new partner, is probably causing distress for the children, they will be feeling unsure and insecure about their place in their new environment and she is likely to be spending less time with them and more with her new partner, which could be causing some upset too.
It might be a good idea to have your son with you, but as you say it might set a precedent that he will get to stay with you if he plays up in future.
Have a word with the school to see if their behaviour has changed, and try and talk to them about how they're feeling. I think a meeting with the mother would also be helpful for you both to do out the best way to deal with this.
It's a difficult situation for you, but I do think you need to try and deal with it for your children's well being. If you leave it it could escalate.
Best of luck
Hi Mojo,
Thanks for the reply. I have initiated a chat with her to try and find out whats going on, and so far the only responses I have been getting is how she is trying to deal with it and trying to help her boyfriend find it easy etc etc. And when I have asked her certain questions like has she hit him or shouted at him, her response was '[censored], I was just sharing with you what happened this morning'. and the told me to go to [censored]! charming I thought.
I have also emailed the school to find out if anything in his behaviour has changed in the past 2 weeks.
The struggle is real!
Her boyfriend shouldn't be her priority! Have you thought about trying mediation to try and get some agreement in place?
I would be more concerned about your ex's behaviour than your son's , I would suggest thay his behaviour is a reaction to the way your ex is conducting herself, and I wouldn't be surprised if her drinking is out of her control. If you try to raise this with her, I would expect that she may react badly. You may need to consider whether you go for an Child Arrangement order for your children to reside with you full time.
Hi
Firstly, I have edited your post to remove the boyfriend's name as we are a public forum.
Secondly, I think that you should be concerned and try to talk with the school and with the mother as the situation is likely to deteriorate given the information you have shared.
I would give some serious thought as to whether you apply to have the children with you full time as it's their welfare that's paramount.