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Hi everyone new to this site and looking for some info please. I'll keep it as brief and accurate as I can.
I currently work full time but receive a relatively small war disablement pension .
I have an agreement to pay my ex an amount we both agreed upon but now she has threatened me with the cms as I have a new partner and we live together.
I've tried to do the gov website calculator and I've entered all details correct. When it gets to the question do you claim any of these benefits the war disblement pension is one of them I click yes. It then goes straight to the calculation and says I will pay a flat rate of £7 PW. It doesn't even let me input my wages . Is this correct because it is going to be a massive shock to her if it is.
There is no hidden agenda here everything I've written is exactly as it is and it is a war disablement pension and nothing else.
Hello Geo74
Child maintenance is calculated on the paying parent’s gross income, which is income before Income Tax and National Insurance are taken off, but after occupational or personal pension scheme contributions are taken away. I have included a link on how the Child Maintenance Service calculates child maintenance, that you may find useful, https://www.gov.uk/how-child-maintenance-is-worked-out/how-the-child-maintenance-service-works-out-child-maintenance.
If you have a family-based arrangement in place, you may wish to discuss and negotiate your agreement with your ex-partner. Although family-based arrangements are not legally enforceable, parents can decide the terms of their agreement to suit their current circumstances, as there are no strict rules or formulas to follow. It can include money and other kinds of support, for example providing school uniforms, toys and clothes.
The Child Maintenance Options website has a useful tools and guides section that you and the other parent may find helpful when trying to negotiate your family-based arrangement. These can be found at http://www.cmoptions.org.
If you have a case with the Child Support Agency (CSA) or the Child Maintenance Service, you may wish to contact them directly to discuss your concerns regarding how your payments are calculated.
For more information on all the different ways to set up child maintenance and for a more personalised service, you can visit the Child Maintenance Options website.
The DWP have a sorting out separation website that you may find useful. It offers help and support to separating and separated families. The link is: https://www.sortingoutseparation.org.uk/.
Regards
William
My point is why won't the calculator let me imputed my wage so I can do my own calculation and instead it simply says because of my war disablement pension she goes onto flat rate
I think this is correct - I believe that certain benefits and pensions do automatically put you onto the flat rate even if you do have other income. You could ring CMS to check this, but I suspect the flat rate of £7 is correct. In which case, you are then free to make a family based arrangement if you wish to do so and pay as much as you wish, or you could pay the flat rate and then buy essentials for your child(ren), bearing in mind that your ex still does have a cost of raising the children. You could always put money into a savings account for when they reach adulthood.
Don't worry I'm not one of the dad's who don't pay. I was just trying to work out what they would make me pay and for the life of me I can't understand why I couldn't do the calculation on the official site.
Hi Buddy
I agree i get a WDP and a ill health tax freemilitary pension and i am struggling for a real answer - i am not working at the moment but when i was i was in the same position - I have sent my own thread out today about this - Have a look
I think not working is the best way in regards to paying out loads of money......but i dont mind paying for my children when i work but this pension issue is killing my brain....
Thanks
darren or Darren3112
Hi I had the same query, and after a bit of searching found the answer.
Yes you qualify for the flat rate due to the War disablement Pension.........But the receiving parent can apply for a Variation to have you work income taken into consideration. see below attached explains it more clearly that the Act itself.
If you’re the parent getting maintenance
You can apply for a variation if you think the parent paying maintenance has other taxable income that wasn’t taken into account in the maintenance calculation. If the CMS can identify this extra income, it will be added to the other parent’s gross income and used to make a new calculation.
If the parent paying maintenance has reported the other income to HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC), the CMS will be able to get this information and usually won’t rely on you to give them the financial details.
However, if HMRC don’t hold any information about this income, you may have to provide further detailed information to enable the CMS to look at your application.
This type of variation is known as an Additional Income variation and covers:
• unearned income
• earned income
• getting rid of income, known as diversion of income.
Unearned income
This may be taxable income from any of the following sources:
• property, for example, rental income
• savings and investments
• miscellaneous income, such as casual earnings from one-off jobs, or late payments received for a business that is no longer active.
Earned income
This means the parent paying maintenance is paying maintenance at the flat or nil rate but has a gross weekly income of £100 or more from employment, self-employment or a pension.
Hope this helps.
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