Welcome to the DAD.Info forum: Important Information – open to read:
Our forum aims to provide support and guidance where it can, however we may not always have the answer. The forum is not moderated 24 hours a day, so If you – or someone you know – are being harmed or in immediate danger of being harmed, call the police on 999.
Alternatively, if you are in crisis, please call Samaritans on 116 123.
If you are worried about you or someone you know is at risk of harm, please click here: How we can help
Hello i am new here.
I met a girl and we have 2 children of 4 years and 6 years old - We are not married - When i met her i was already in receipt on a War Pension (Paid 4 weekly) and a tax free Military "service to blame" monthly pension.
Also i am out of work at the moment and we are about to split and divide our house 50/50 so all is good here (She is driving this)
Question:
1. Can she claim against both of these tax free disibility pensions?
I understand if i work i will have to pay and thats fine - The Vetrens agency said yesterday to me that both pensions cannot be used as payments for her/Children? and dont count as income.
Are these pensions safe?
I will be having my children 2 times a week as well.
I see so many mixed messages that i just wondered if anybody is in the same boat as me? (These 2 pensions and dont work or out of work)
Thanks Dad's out there
Darren3112
Hello Darren3112
Based on what you have written, I am not certain what type of pension you are in receipt of. If you receive either Armed Forces Compensation Scheme payments, War Disablement Pension or any of the benefits listed below, you would be expected to pay the ‘Flat Rate’. This is a rate the government’s statutory maintenance service – the Child Maintenance Service – apply when parents pay a flat rate of up to £7 child maintenance per week, no matter how many children they have. Flat rate applies if their weekly gross income is between £7 and £100 or any of the benefits listed below are being received:
- income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance
- income-related Employment and Support Allowance
- Pension Credit
- contribution-based Jobseeker’s Allowance
- contribution-based Employment and Support Allowance
- State Pension
- Incapacity Benefit
- Training Allowance
- Armed Forces Compensation Scheme payments
- War Disablement Pension Income Support
- Bereavement Allowance
- Carer’s Allowance
- Maternity Allowance
- Severe Disablement Allowance
- Industrial Injuries Disablement Benefit
- Widowed Parent’s Allowance
- Widow’s pension
- Universal Credit with no earned income
- Skillseekers training (specific to Scotland)
- War Widow’s Pension (specific to Scotland)
- Widower’s Pension (specific to Scotland)
- Surviving Civil Partner’s Pension (specific to Scotland)
If you do not receive any of the benefits listed, the assessment would be based on your gross taxable weekly income (income before tax and National Insurance, but after any pension contributions you make). The online calculator on the Child Maintenance Options website at http://www.cmoptions.org may be of use to you, as it can give you an approximate amount of maintenance that would be expected along the Child Maintenance Service’s guidelines.
You can find more information about how the Child Maintenance Service work out child maintenance payments on Gov.uk at https://www.gov.uk/how-child-maintenance-is-worked-out/how-the-child-maintenance-service-works-out-child-maintenance.
For information on all the different ways to set up child maintenance and for a more personalised service, you can visit the Child Maintenance Options website.
The DWP have a sorting out separation website that you may find useful. It offers help and support to separating and separated families. The link is: https://www.sortingoutseparation.org.uk/.
Regards
William
Thanks William,
I did know all of your message - but in military terms both of my pensions are tax free due to injury (Military to blame) i just needed to know off somebody if or what child Maintenace i have to pay.....and i have no job no other income?
Heeeelllppp
best wishes Darren
I presume these are war disablement pension as William listed. The CMS use taxable income, so if this is tax free, then even more to say that this isn't assessed. It might be worth ring CMS for advice directly.
So according to your post regardless of income earned from a job and you are in receipt of ANY of the benefits you listed then you are put straight onto the flat rate???
I believe that is the case, daft as it sounds.As I said, worth speaking to CMS.
Try giving CMO a call - their helpline is very good.
@Child Maintenance Consultant , have you worked on a case like this before and was it successful?
@j4life hi, that CMS consultant account is no longer active on the forum. I recommend you join this support group for paying parents:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/239699060076601/?ref=share
Welcome to the DAD.info forum.
We don’t like to set ‘rules’, but to make sure that you and the other dads are kept safe, we have some requests. When engaging with the forum, please be aware of the following:
- The forum is not moderated 24 hours per day.
- Many of the moderators do so on a voluntary basis. Whilst they may be able to provide some guidance, advice or support, they may not be able to deal with specifics.
- We are not an emergency crisis service so if you or someone else is in immediate danger, please call emergency services.
- If you are concerned about the safety of a child, please click here to find the support you can get for them (link to new page)
- If you are in crisis, please call Samaritans on 116 123. They are open 24 hours a day, 7 days per week.
We hope you find this forum a supportive environment and thank you for joining us.