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Clubs, activities, school trips and wrap-around school care, who pays when?

 
(@dadact)
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Hello everyone, first post of probably many, but certainly the most urgent.  My understanding is that regular clubs and activities should be covered by maintenance payments, my children's mother's understanding is that I should be paying for half of those on top of maintenance.  I have been paying for their music lessons, purely because it won't get done otherwise, is there any way to get her to take responsibility for these?  But my biggest burden is coming from the before and after school care, I see the argument that they meet my need and therefore I should pay for them on days where I have care, but I also wonder whether that is technically accurate since if I didn't have care of the children on those days, she would still need to put them in the clubs (she does everyday and frequently for longer hours), and they are regular clubs.  Does anybody know with certainty whether I should be paying twice?  On top of this, she insists that I am responsible for half of school uniform (which I provide separately anyway since they go from my home 3 times a fortnight and I am fortunate enough to have plenty of donors of the generic stuff) and half of school trips,; the literature I can find counters this claim, which is correct?  I do not begrudge my children anything, they enjoy the same standard of living in my home as they do their mothers, but the financial burden is crippling me and I earn fairly well, but have nothing left to do anything with, whilst she enjoys luxury holidays, in my eyes at our children's expense, since in 6 years she has not taken them anywhere.  

To give you a fuller picture, but not to deviate from the original query of childcare costs yet.  Their mother earns substantially more than myself now, and works much longer hours for it, is the pwc and child benefits claimant despite earning above the threshold whilst I remain just below it. and I hope to challenge her for 50/50, but she evades mediation. 

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Topic starter Posted : 05/07/2022 10:54 am
(@dadmod2)
Illustrious Member

hi,

are you paying her through Child maintenance service? if so then the amount you pay her should cover all costs related to child care when the kids stay with her. if you have a private arrangement, then I guess there is more flexibility or down to whatever you both agree on.

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Posted : 05/07/2022 11:01 am
(@dadact)
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@bill337 

Agreement is through the CMS, but my question isn't about childcare on her time, it's about after school and breakfast club on my time. With any other club, I've read that it's covered by maintenance, I'm trying to find out whether anyone knows definitively what is and isn't covered by child maintenance payments. 

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Topic starter Posted : 05/07/2022 7:53 pm
(@dadmod2)
Illustrious Member

@dadact theres a useful group on FB, CMS support for non resident parents. recommend it: https://www.facebook.com/groups/239699060076601

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Posted : 05/07/2022 9:20 pm
(@dadanonymous111)
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@dadact

Did you get a response on this? I am going through the same situation and I can not seem to get any answers? Any response will be appreciated 

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Posted : 20/09/2024 12:43 pm
(@dadmod4)
Illustrious Member

The simple answer is that child maintenance covers all of this, certainly while the child is in the care of the recipient. There is no way to enforce that the Parent with care (usually the mother) does pay for school trips etc, but certainly she has no right to expact, or mechanism to enforce that you pay anything additional to the CMS maintance calculation (assuming maintenance is via CMS).

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Posted : 26/09/2024 11:41 am
(@wintertime23)
New Member Registered

Did you get anywhere with this? I'm in a similar situation. My ex only works part time so we dont have childcare on her days. We have to pay for after school club on my days, but that would also be the case if she had them as well (she actually works later than me so would have to ask someone else to pick up the children if she was working). Like @dadact, I'd like to know whether I have to pay CMS AND childcare costs when my children are in my care. If so, that would be crippling. 

 

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Posted : 22/11/2024 4:48 pm
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