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[Solved] Change in Circumstances


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Hi,
My ex-wife has just e-mailed me claiming that I'm just under £3k short on child maintenance payments. I'd like a bit of advise where I stand before taking this up with her or I guess maybe her solicitor.

After our 'decree absolute' in May 2005 we agreed, amicably, a lump sum split and a monthly payment (calculated through CSA) of £320 for my 2 children. This was to be increase after a year and then each subsequent years by inflation. This was all laid out in a 'consent order'.
A year later in April 2006 I gave up my job and went self employed. My salary dropped considerably but I decided to continue with the same payments of £320 but did not add the interest and did not communicate a 'change of circumstances' to the CSA or courts. At this time I felt it was right to carry on with these payments as re assesment on a salary that was 1/3rd of what it was the previous year may have ment that the monthly payments went from £320 down to £120. this would have left my ex-wife in the lurch a bit.

My ex-wife gets to the £3k figure that I owe her from the payments that have been short of interest for the last 6 1/2 years.

I have applied to HMRC to get a formal copy of my SA302(self assesment summary) which will give a figure for my net income 2011-2012 I intend to then go back to the CSA calculator, re-input all the figures and then offer my ex-wife the monthly alternative. I think this will be approx. £240/month?

Am I missing something? I want to be generous but keep being called mean & selfish for not paying enough. Can she leagally reclain the loss in interest?

Here's hoping you can help :0)

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Hi

I've just done a quick calculation and at 3% inflation per year, I come to about the same figure that your ex has arrived at. As their is a court order, I would say that she probably is correct in saying that she can claim the arrears, but it's worth having a word with the Citizens Advice Bureau to see if they can give further advice on this - she would have to go back to court to have this enforced I believe as the CSA are not currently involved as I understand it.

If you think that your payments with the CSA would now be about £240 (the basic calculation is 20% of takehome pay), you could suggest that you will pay this, plus an additional £80 per month to start to clear the arrears. She has the choice to reject this, but if she goes back to court, and you have offered to pay this (and hopefully started to pay it), a court may be a little more sympathetic to your case if you are seen to be repaying the debt.

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Thanks for your advice 'actd'.

I have been back to the CSA & they advise that even though a consent order was made on the £320/month this is still open for review after a year (& each year after) when a change in circumstances occurs.
Just for clarification 'actd'..... if I had applied for a change in circumstances back then(2006) I would have had to pay approx. £80/month the first year then £100/month 2nd year & so on until this last year I'd be up to about £240/month.

Would your advice still be that the courts would make me pay the interest on the £320/Month? It's also worth bearing in mind that my ex wife left me for another man, She now lives in a very large house with field/paddock and is still not working full time, though both children are at secondary school. Also, I do have the kids for more than the 104 nights/year that should mean the monthly payments come down further (But I've not added this into the CSA calculator, so that it gives a more generous figure)

Any further thoughts would be very much appriciated, before I try and reslove this.
Thanks :0)

I really do want to keep our solicitors out of this and will be talking to my ex wife about the matter in a few days.

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I'm not sure if the courts would expect you to pay interest in a family case, and they may be a little more sympathetic with your ex's circumstances, but there's certainly no guarantee as the parent with care's financial circumstances are totally irrelevant when calculating maintenance through the CSA. Ultimately, it's down the to the court on the day, but if you are seen to be acting reasonably and accept that the debt exists and that you are doing your best to repay, the courts are more likely to look favourably on your argument. Would still be worth contacting the C.A.B for a legal opinion on this.

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Thanks again 'actd'.
I will contact the CAB and post another 'response' soon...I hope!?

You do seem convinced that my 'change in circumstances' in 2006 will not be considered? In round figures, my income dropped from £35k to £6.5k &, at that time, I made the decision not to alter my monthly payments & formally notify this change for the reasons outlined earlier. What if i was a pianist & had my fingers chopped off? Would they still be expecting me to 'catch-up' on all the lost interest now that I'm making £20k as a drummer? :0( Just a thought?

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The reason I don't think your change in circumstances will be considered is simply because you didn't notify the CSA - if you'd have do so, then it would have been different. The CSA generally calculate a change, whichever way it is, from the date they are notified about it. If you ex hadn't claimed maintenance through the CSA at all, and then decided to do so now, the CSA wouldn't claim maintenance from you since birth, only from the date the claim was made - it works both ways.

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Hi 'actd'. Thanks again for a quick reply.
I guess I may just have to bite the bullet and pay the 'lost interest' as I do not want to go down the route of fighting through solicitors!
However, she does still want current maintenance to increase (without going back through the CSA) so I guess I'd better notify them asap. This, however, will mean the monthly payments drop from £320 to £196/month so her short term gain will, I think turn into a long term loss.......unless I earn lots more money over the next couple of years!?

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I think that it's sensible not to use solicitors, the fees would outweigh any possible gain, and probably simply compound your loss. It's always worth keeping the CSA up to date, or at the very least, if you get a pay increase, then any extra you would pay the CSA, pay into a savings account in case they get you for the arrears, and if they don't, you can give the savings to your children later on in life.

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