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(@markmorb)
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Hi,

New to forum but could really do with some advice.

I have been seperated from the mother of my child for nearly 5 years, it's gone ok and up until recently we split out time with our daughter 50/50 although she was deemed as primary carer and receives Child Benefit etc.

Last year she moved away which means I now only see my daughter 2 out of every 3 weekends, this has been hard but we are dealing with it and there has been no animosity (although a few tears from me and my daughter)

Long story short, my ex is struggling with my daughter and rang me this week to come and get her (and all her possessions) and wants her to live with me.

I am more than happy for this to happen but I'm also aware this could just be a temporary thing while my ex deals with her current state of mind and then decides she wants her back. My daughter wants to live with me and has said this consistently for the last few months, I have told my ex I would be happy for that to happen but have not pushed for it just kept the door open....my daughter is 11.

If this is a permanent thing then what do I need to do to make sure I'm seen as the primary carer.....my concern is that I will get her moved to a school near me, etc and then in a few weeks time her Mum will decide she wants her back and I will be powerless to stop here...this is no good for my Daughter or me....I need to do something quick as her SAT's are in a fortnights time....at the moment her Mother will not communicate with me or my Daughter so I am unable to ascertain if this is a definite move or a "flair up".

Any advice would be more than gratefully received....as not sure who to ask about all these questions.

Thanks
Mark

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Topic starter Posted : 29/04/2016 1:17 pm
 Yoda
(@yoda)
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Hi, you would need to make an urgent application to the court using a C100 form for a Child Arrangement Order about where your daughter lives and an urgent Prohibited Steps Order to prevent her being removed from your care.

Given the distance between your homes, the court would not approve of such big changes going back and forth and it is important for your daughter to have some stability.

You might be granted an interim urgent order and then full proceedings would begin, there would likely be a Section 7 report ordered by the court which would help determine where your daughter should live on a permanent basis. This process in total would take approximately 4-6 months.

If an urgent hearing is listed, it is likely this will take place without the mother being given notice, if the order is granted, she will be given an opportunity to challenge this.

My best advice is to get this before the court as a matter of urgency.

If there is a current order in place that states your daughter lives with her mother you must make this application quickly.

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Posted : 29/04/2016 1:33 pm
(@markmorb)
Active Member Registered

Thank you for all the very helpful advice.....we do not currently have any sort of court order in place, we've managed to amicably sort everything out and I pay her each month more or less what the CSA calculator suggests and she get's all child benefits etc.,

The fact that we do not currently have an order place, does that mean that as things stand I have every right to allow my Daughter to continue to live with me and find a school for her etc. or is it the case that because my ex currently gets child benefits, etc and my Daughter has spent the majority of the time with her up till now does that mean she can legally retrieve her from me immediately or would she have to go through a similar process to that which you have recommended to me?

If we just verbally agreed that my Daughter is now living with me and I re school her etc., is that strong enough legally for me to stop paying maintenance and apply for child benefits etc,.

Thanks,
Mark

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Topic starter Posted : 29/04/2016 3:53 pm
(@Child Maintenance Consultant)
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Hello markmorb

I am not an expert when it comes to custody and legal rights, however, I can provide you with some information to help you determine who will be classed as the receiving parent with regards to child maintenance.

The definition of a receiving parent (referred to in legislation as the 'person with care') is the person with whom a child has his/her home and who usually provides day-to-day care of the child.

The definition of a paying parent (referred to in legislation as the 'non-resident parent') is the person who does not usually provide the day-to-day care of the child.

For assistance with clarifying who should receive the Child Benefit, you may wish to contact the Child Benefit department of HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC). You can find their contact details, as well as information about Child Benefit, at http://www.hmrc.gov.uk.

If you feel you may benefit from seeking legal advice, you could contact Civil Legal Advice, the Government funded confidential legal service. More information about them, as well as their contact details, can be found on their website at http://www.gov.uk/civil-legal-advice.

For information on the different ways to set up child maintenance and for a more personalised service, you can visit the Child Maintenance Options website at http://www.cmoptions.org.

The DWP have a sorting out separation web-app that you may find useful. It offers help and support to separating and separated families. The link is: www.dad.info/divorce-and-separation/sorting-out-separation.

Regards

William

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Posted : 29/04/2016 7:33 pm
(@dadmod4)
Illustrious Member

as there is no legal agreement, ie a court order or CSA/CMS involvement, then you can stop paying maintenance, and you certainly can apply for the child benefit. My only worry would be whether this would prompt your ex to take your daughter back - I would be more inclined, if you can afford to do so, to continue paying for a while and get your daughter established in school, social life etc and once done, then stop paying - that way, if your ex tried to take her back, you can apply for a child arrangment order that she remains with you, and a court is far less likely to return her to her mother if she is established where she is.

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Posted : 30/04/2016 11:16 am
(@markmorb)
Active Member Registered

as there is no legal agreement, ie a court order or CSA/CMS involvement, then you can stop paying maintenance, and you certainly can apply for the child benefit. My only worry would be whether this would prompt your ex to take your daughter back - I would be more inclined, if you can afford to do so, to continue paying for a while and get your daughter established in school, social life etc and once done, then stop paying - that way, if your ex tried to take her back, you can apply for a child arrangment order that she remains with you, and a court is far less likely to return her to her mother if she is established where she is.

Thanks for that...that is exactly how I intend to do it, the most important thing is my Daughters wellbeing and security and I think the situation you describe could well happen.

..and thanks again for all the other replies, they have been very helpful indeed.

Mark

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Topic starter Posted : 30/04/2016 11:23 am
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