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This is my first post here and this subject is very close to my heart as my 15 yr old daughter was at the hands of an exact same incident. She now lives with me as she is scared to be at was once for her, home. Personally I have no sympathy with you. People like you wreck lives because you don't have the strength to walk away from conflict. I hope every day that guilt finds you and tortures you. I am sure without doubt that you are sorry and that you seek forgiveness you poor misunderstood bully. There is no justification for lashing out at a minor. Walk away, be the bigger man.
All of you that show pity, would you do so if it happened to your child ? You'd want his [censored] on a plate.
Note to self, must read book on how to win friends and influence people
I'm sorry to hear about what happened to your daughter Mr Chips. I can understand why you feel the way you do, you're angry and upset....it's so painful when our children are hurting and afraid and we weren't able to protect them.
I can only speak for myself but I try to be non judgemental when responding to other members here, although I have had my moments! Generally people arrive here needing help and looking for support and I think it's to our credit that most of the time, as a group, we are able to provide that.
You are wrong about acting differently had it happened to one of our children, it happened to mine as I mentioned in my reply to Danny. Being a step parent can be extremely hard and we all make mistakes...I knew how much my partner loved my son, and still does. As a young man my son had to take responsibility for his provocation of his step dad just as his step dad had to take responsibility for his reaction. We sorted it out as a family and as I said, they both laugh about it now....my son is thirty.
I do appreciate that being a girl, the situation is different, if you want to talk about it we are here to listen, if not then that's fine too. Having said that using violence against either [censored] is wrong, I just wanted to make that clear!
This is my first post here and this subject is very close to my heart as my 15 yr old daughter was at the hands of an exact same incident. She now lives with me as she is scared to be at was once for her, home. Personally I have no sympathy with you. People like you wreck lives because you don't have the strength to walk away from conflict. I hope every day that guilt finds you and tortures you. I am sure without doubt that you are sorry and that you seek forgiveness you poor misunderstood bully. There is no justification for lashing out at a minor. Walk away, be the bigger man.
All of you that show pity, would you do so if it happened to your child ? You'd want his [censored] on a plate.Note to self, must read book on how to win friends and influence people
Mr Chips - everyone on here is entitiled to their own opinion however I'm not entirely sure how constructive your comments are. I can understand how given your circumstances you would feel angry but it is also worth remembering that the incident involving your daughter whilst it may be similar was not the "exact same incident" - it is very easy to judge without understanding this situation, the persons state of mind and the events that have led to an event happening. Also in this situation - Danny P would agree with you that what he did was wrong, should never have happened and that he should have been the bigger man and walked away - but he has also taken steps to get help and counselling for his anger issues. In this situation, I would suggest that, Danny deserves our support and understanding.
However after saying all that, it is great that your daughter is in a safe enviroment with her father who obviously loves her. How is she doing?
Gooner
Wow, well I must say that I was extremely saddened to read the post by Mr Chips.
Yes, a lot of what you say is very true, but a lot of what you say shows that you don't know anything about my situation.
This is a forum, where anybody can have an opinion. You have given yours, now I would like to give mine. I want you to fully understand that I have not, and would not judge you as a man because of your situation.
Firstly, I posted here on DAD info because at the time I had just suffered from a nervous breakdown, mostly bought on by a massive move of premises at work. I was under huge pressure, and depressed, yet at the time I didn't notice. I didn't come on here begging cyberspace to forgive me, I didn't come on here thinking that things would ever be ok, and I didn't come on here hoping that this would make it all better. I came on here because I needed advice like had anybody else done something similar. Strangely enough, I don't go around beating up minors, and I especially don't go around beating up minors that I've fathered since they were 4, and love like my own biological girls, aged 9 & 6. I needed guidance, and someone to talk to. Lets be honest, men don't normally talk about stuff like this in the pub because its BLUDEY HORRIBLE & SHAMEFUL.
The good people on here kept me away from the really dark, from suicide basically. These people saved me from a better legacy than my dad left for me, namely he burned himself to death when I was 15. I've missed him every single day since then, I'm now 38.
As for the lovely point you made about hoping guilt finds me and tortures me daily, well, it does. It's got a proper name though, it's called REMORSE. In case you are not familiar with this word, it's how someone normally good & proper feels when they are so VERY TRULY SORRY about something they've done. Just so you know, it's pains me that I've failed my son in this way, it pains me that this is the glowing example of manhood that I've provided, and it pains me that one day I'll have to explain to my daughters why daddy went away for 2 weeks without a trace (bail conditions) and why it was necessary. So you'll be really glad to know that the pain NEVER goes away.
As for others "wanting my [censored] on a plate" My [censored], however small they might be we're big enough to never once deny their wrong doing, big enough to do EVERYTHING in their power to try to rebuild his family, and still are, big enough to admit I needed help and that maybe I wasn't the man I thought I was, big enough to front up to everything else including my immediate family, my stepsons biological dad, my friends and work colleagues. My [censored] shrank, but they NEVER HID AWAY EITHER.
Also, at the age of 18 I had to have my mother forcibly sectioned under the mental health act. This is itself may not sound difficult, but then years later admitting myself that I had mental health issues was scary. Self doubt and paranoia consumed me, and its only now that I have some medication can I control my reactions to a much better extent.
From a my son & I point of view, we actually have a much closer relationship now. Strangely enough I think we respect each other more now. It took for this to happen to make me realise just how much I love my step son. There's this funny thing where for some reason the fact that he's my stepson makes this different, like I can't possibly love him like my biological daughter. Let me tell everyone here that that is TOTAL RUBBISH. I never saw him as anything other than my own. That's why I was and still am ABSOLUTELY MORTIFIED by my cruel actions.
I will not go into exact detail about the circumstances that led to the awful events that occurred in my family, but let me leave it at the fact that the "challenging" behaviour was not a one off. My son had been warned many times about his challenging nature, and sometimes no means no. I actually have the pictures of the bruises that he gave to me, he is my height 6'3" and is much bigger than me. He would pass for 18 in most bars already. So just so you know, although it was wrong, it was not David and Goliath.
As for me being a bully, well I guess some may call it that, but a bully repeatedly hurts and abuses someone both physically and mentally on many occasions. I would consider myself unlucky to have to say that I can only think of this one occasion where I crossed the line, as one time is one time to many. I may be weak, the smaller man and VERY WRONG but I'm not a bully. Is it fair of me to say I felt quite bullied by your post Mr Chips? No, I didn't think so.
So, I hope I've cleared some stuff up there, and for all the peeps that offered me SUPPORT and NOT FORGIVENESS thank you again so much for providing this forum, without which I could well be dead now, and my son & daughters would have all the same questions that I never got to ask my dad.
Danny P
Very eloquently put Danny, I think you are a credit to yourself, you didn't hide away from it, nor make excuses for what happened. You stepped up and took responsibility...it's been a hard lesson but I think you have come out the other side a much wiser man.
Mr Chips is entitled to his opinion and perhaps when he's had time to reflect, his attitude towards you will soften...I hope when that happens he's man enough to admit he was too quick to judge.
It's a pity you were drawn back to the Forum to have to answer for your actions in this way, but I'm glad to hear that you and your boy are getting on so well!
I know of no one else here that has anything other than respect for the way you dealt with a very traumatic experience, so please take heart from that.
Thanks Nannyjane.
You were a beacon of light in a very, very dark place for me.
Like I said, I wasn't looking for forgiveness, only my son can give that, but I came looking for support, and that support saved me.
I'll forever be grateful to those of you that listened.
Thanks again
Danny P
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